hondaiceman Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 I know everyone wants the 4g64 for the swaps because it bolts up to the stock trans, only thing is its not a turbo block. So now i get to the meat of the inquiry (question). There are numerous g54b blocks that are not turbo blocks also." Yes you can use them, no they are not to be used." ?????? Yes,no,yes,no idk lol. Just add oil squirters. I remember going over this a few years back. The thing is i have slept since then, so refresh my memory. TY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchi934 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) i believe you're asking several questions at once. If you come across a g54 block that isnt turbo. The block itself is the same as ours, just without squirters. You can machine them to accept conquest squirters, then swap all your conquest only goodies onto it (oil pump, pan, nitrited crank, etc) and it will be JUST LIKE yours in your car... the 4g64 is popular because it also bolts in, can be machined for squirters and is similar in displacement (2.4L) but its popular because it will accept with very minimal modification the 4g63 DOHC head (4 valves per cyliner) AND you can use 4g63 rods as well as most other engine components to build a high revving high hp motor. Dont forget though, that both of those blocks come in either wideblock (like the starion/conquest motor as well as MOST d50s) or narrow block, which is mostly used in FWD cars. Edited March 24, 2012 by Frenchi934 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickMitz Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) Beat me to it frenchie,lol as an aditional note there would be no benifit to using the non-turbo block, and it would cost more to machine. The 4g64 block is GREAT, if you have the money and I mean big money you can build a very awsome engine using the 64 block. For most people building the g54 is the most economical option. Edited March 24, 2012 by QuickMitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchi934 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) yes. The 4g64 has a higher horsepower potential but the cost per horsepower up to say 350-400 is cheaper to do with the g54b Edited March 24, 2012 by Frenchi934 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Your rwd n/a truck block might not have a boss to put a hole in for a knock sensor. If you use pistons with a ceramic coated dish that can help reduce their temperatures like the spraying of the oil on the underside does but its not the exactly the same. You could do both and there's plenty of oil squirters from many different engines you could use. A FWD 2.6 block is cast different and requires the rear mounted cam driven water pump. There's only one version of a RWD 2.4 you can use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondaiceman Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 What about the new EVO 4g63 blocks, are they the same as the old 4g63? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondaiceman Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) And if someone is making custom housing for a t56 swap, why not make a housing to adapt our stock trans to the 4g63??? Maybe their is one not sure. Edited March 24, 2012 by hondaiceman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 That EVO motor is called a 4G63 but it has absolutely nothing in common with that old 2.0 motor with the same name. Its been changed many times over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondaiceman Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Ok i was doing some thinking, I once broke an ear off my turbo 350 trans i had on my 283. And i took it in to have the ear welded back on. And they welded it back on my aluminum trans. Which gave me the idea of cutting the stock trans( starion,conquest 5 spd.) and welding on a plate that would be able to bolt up to a 4g63. Now that i said that i know I probably missing something because this seems to easy to me. I'm sure there other reasons why someone hasn't tried this yet. Don't get to crazy with your replys i'm just thinking out loud here and I'm not a top notch mechanic. So let the replys begin. Can it be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Someone already made a way to use a fwd 4g63 in rwd form. When you do these motor swaps a stock tranny you do not want. All these 25 year old worn out trannys aren't much better either. You need to rebuild those same as you rebuild your engines. You can't just weld here and there, the axis of the crank and the axis the trany must be exact unless you just want it to last a few weeks and eat bearings and ruin both. Here's the guy that made a bellhousing for what you want to do if you find a junkyard toyota gearbox. http://www.billsautofab.com/ his screen name in here is Bill Hincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondaiceman Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Yea thats all good. Except its very costly by the time you add trans, clutch, adapter, mods to your car, and the 4g63. A stock modified trans would be the way to go on a budget. These cars are not that costly thats why we get them most bang for your buck, if i wanted a t56 i would get a firebird or a camaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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