Jump to content

New from Fort Worth, TX

kapok6

By kapok6,
in Just plain ol' B.S.

 Share

Recommended Posts

kapok6 Newbie

kapok6

Posted
Posted

Hello everyone. My name is Ryan and my wife Amanda and I just moved to Texas from Columbus, OH. I currently have a Silver/Grey 1991 TSi AWD, pics below. Also below are pics of my old 1990 TSi AWD that was totaled back in Sept when a lady ran a red light at 55mph and t-boned me. The 1991 I own now has KYB GR-2's with suspension technique springs, meghan racing strut bars, apex n1 turbo back exhaust, bottom end newly rebuilt with ross 8.3:1 ceramic coated pistons, eagle rods, acl bearings, ARP main studs, ARP head studs, with a 2G 7 bolt head rocking HKS 272 cams, evo springs and retainers, SS valves (1mm oversized exhaust) evo 3 intake manifold fed by an FP3065. Thats just to name a few of the mods. I had 3 weeks to take it from pretty much a shell to putting it back together and get it running well enough to driver onto the trailer for the move to TX so I still have some little things I need to work out and then tuning begins. Goal is 425awhp on 93oct.

 

Anyway, I am considering buying this 1986 conquest a few hours from me. I went to look at it the other day and it needs cleaned up but overall rather impressive to me for being as old as it is. No compression in cylinder 3 so instead of rebuilding the motor, I will most likely do a 4g63T swap since I have about 6 years of experience with the 4g63 platform. I have been doing a lot of reading over the last few days on these cars and it seems people have put about every motor imagineable in these things but the 4g63 seems to be the most popular.

 

If I do buy this car, I will have tons of questions about how to swap properly. I will do my best to search for the answer before starting a new thread but please forgive me if I miss something as I will be a noob to these things.

 

Anwyay,

 

Thanks for having me. Pics below of old talon and the new one.

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a461/RyanCorlew/DSM/IMG_3867.jpg

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a461/RyanCorlew/DSM/IMG_3868.jpg

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a461/RyanCorlew/DSM/IMG_3878.jpg

 

New DSM

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a461/RyanCorlew/DSM/IMG_2564.jpg

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a461/RyanCorlew/DSM/IMG_2565.jpg

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a461/RyanCorlew/DSM/IMG_2579.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites
theRobot Newbie

theRobot

Posted
Posted

It's a dmn shame the black-silver two tone got wrecked, I really like the look of those when they're clean. With the vinyl they run on the bottom to blend the two colors.

 

 

Anyhow, if you plan the do the 4G63T swap. You may want to expand your horizon and do the 64/63 hybrid. It involves scooping up a 2.4l inline 4 from a Mighty Max compact pickup, and using the head from either your 1G or 2G on that block. They are the same series motors, but different generations, so the parts interchange with a little tweaking. (You will need new Pistons and Rods, to lower the compression ratio and to have forged components.)

The 2.4 is a wideblock motor, like the 4G54B that comes in the american starquests. So you'll be able to use the transmission that's currently in the car.

 

If you maintain the 4g63 lower end, (it's a narrower block width) you'll be forced to use the narrow block RWD transmission, which often have bearing failures with the high rev limit of the 4G63. That and they're getting harder to find. Your other option, keeping with the 63 lower end, is getting a bellhousing adapter from Bill Hincher, He makes a few of them.

 

www.projectzerog.com will give you a lot(and I mean a lot) of info.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kapok6 Newbie

kapok6

Posted
  • Author
Posted

It's a dmn shame the black-silver two tone got wrecked, I really like the look of those when they're clean. With the vinyl they run on the bottom to blend the two colors.

 

 

Anyhow, if you plan the do the 4G63T swap. You may want to expand your horizon and do the 64/63 hybrid. It involves scooping up a 2.4l inline 4 from a Mighty Max compact pickup, and using the head from either your 1G or 2G on that block. They are the same series motors, but different generations, so the parts interchange with a little tweaking. (You will need new Pistons and Rods, to lower the compression ratio and to have forged components.)

The 2.4 is a wideblock motor, like the 4G54B that comes in the american starquests. So you'll be able to use the transmission that's currently in the car.

 

If you maintain the 4g63 lower end, (it's a narrower block width) you'll be forced to use the narrow block RWD transmission, which often have bearing failures with the high rev limit of the 4G63. That and they're getting harder to find. Your other option, keeping with the 63 lower end, is getting a bellhousing adapter from Bill Hincher, He makes a few of them.

 

www.projectzerog.com will give you a lot(and I mean a lot) of info.

 

Thanks for the info. I have also joined projectzerog.com

 

I have a 2g head right now so I will just be in need of a shortblock. So you are saying the mighty maxes had 4g64 in them? My buddy back home has a hyundai 2.4 block and 1G head going in his eclipse. How hard are these mighty max blocks so come by? I guess my biggest concern is motor mounts and making sure everything fits PROPERLY. Would I have to get mounts custom made if I were to use a 4g64 block from a mighty max?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
theRobot Newbie

theRobot

Posted
Posted (edited)

From my recollection, Mitsubishi use the same mount distances for a good bit of their motors.

 

So I do know the mounts are the same for the 64 block, 63 block to the 4g54b block as well, being the 63 block has an additional transverse mount built in the front above the water pump.

 

The Mighty Max's(Dodge D-50s), through-out their importation, came with 3 motors. The SOHC 4G63 2.0(narrow, timing belt), the SOHC 4G64 2.4(wide, timing belt) and the SOHC 4G54B 2.6(wide, timing chain)(Same motor as the starquests, just a notch higher in compression ratio to my knowledge, though I could be wrong.)

 

Yes, Hyundai did use Mitsubishi's 2.4l(4G64) motors in a few of their early model Sonatas.

This link breaks down the vehicle and engine that was included in the states.

http://projectzerog.com/mitsubishi_engines.shtml

Edited by theRobot
Link to comment
Share on other sites
kapok6 Newbie

kapok6

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Welcome to the Republic of Texas...could've done better than Ft. Worthless :P Welcome to the forums. Good ppl on here.

 

Well, don't I feel salty...just made the reservation for the trailer to pick up the conquest and 5 minutes later I got a text from the guy stating he couldn't sell the car, he decided to keep it. That sucks. Especially since I drove 3hrs to go look at the thing. Ohh well. Looks like my dreams of putting together a 4g63 conquest are on hold until I can come across another good deal...if that ever happens.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Austin88ESiR Newbie

Austin88ESiR

Posted
Posted

Well, don't I feel salty...just made the reservation for the trailer to pick up the conquest and 5 minutes later I got a text from the guy stating he couldn't sell the car, he decided to keep it. That sucks. Especially since I drove 3hrs to go look at the thing. Ohh well. Looks like my dreams of putting together a 4g63 conquest are on hold until I can come across another good deal...if that ever happens.

Too bad. There are plenty around. Maybe you can find a good rolling chassis.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kapok6 Newbie

kapok6

Posted
  • Author
Posted

welcome. u can find one in tx pretty easy, thats where they tend to flock haha

 

Looks like I got one afterall! Well, I picked this up over the weekend from another member on here. Good guy and a pleasure to do business with. . With my 1Ga close to being done (ha ha as if these things are ever done), and my desire for a RWD car, I have embarked on this long journey. I foresee 4g63t swap in the future The good thing is, she runs/drives so hopefully I can sell the engine and trans to help alleviate the cost of the 4g63 swap.

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a461/RyanCorlew/StarQuest/IMAG0624.jpg

 

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a461/RyanCorlew/StarQuest/IMAG0625.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kapok6 Newbie

kapok6

Posted
  • Author
Posted

LOLZ...those tags are from 99. I'm guessing it was not running? :lol:

 

Actually runs just fine. Starts up, idles nice, drove it onto the trailer, drove it off the trailer and up into my garage.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
chiplee Newbie

chiplee

Posted
Posted

There is a few of us here in FTW. Plenty of parts and know how. Good luck with the swap and PM if you need a hand.

 

There's another one on the way. I'm moving to Fort Worth in September. I can add parts, but not a lot of know how.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kapok6 Newbie

kapok6

Posted
  • Author
Posted

There's another one on the way. I'm moving to Fort Worth in September. I can add parts, but not a lot of know how.

 

Thanks for all the offers of help guys. I will certainly be taking advantage of those offers. Right now my main focus is getting the talon done. She is so close. For the mean time, I may just replace the rim, the windshield, injector connectors, fuel filter, etc and drive the starion as is for now since it's a running car and I won't have the money to do another build, especially a swap for a while. This whole deal may take a couple years until the end result but we will see how it goes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...