oh sorry, i didnt really specify what i was looking for in the first post i AM after the x8's and x9's but i would take x8 all around or x7 in the front x8 in the rear but thanks, i wasnt really aware the x9's were so rare. sorry about that. as for the other guy - onto us? ok i guess. does it matter that i want to use them for a car that isnt a starion? i hope not. anyways nice way "tracking" what car im going to use them on. im glad to know its that important to you. dstar, either of you guys planning on coming down to socal anytime soon? i might be heading up to sac in a while and id be willing to drive over possibly know how much he wants for them?