propeine Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Well I posted this in the BS forum the other day but I want to try and get more pictures so I can kind of step by step through my swap so I'm starting a post here. I plan to include parts bought and pictures so everyone knows where I'm at. Here's the current list of parts This was all on the engine I bought for $800-1970 Corvette SBC Block at 355cid 2 piece rear main seal 4 bolt mains Forged internals 12:1 Compression 1.6 Roller Rockers Lumpy Cam -HEI Ignition-Unsure of the heads on the engine-Strip Dominator intake-Edelbrock 850 CFM Carb Borg warner T56 Transmission brand new from a distributor $2000-Custom bellhousing spacer-Hydraulic throwout bearing Summit Racing Order number 1-Mallory Fuel pressure regulator -MAA-4309 $74.88-Brake hose fitting Wrong one -MCL-139026 $41.39-One Wire Alternator Conversion -SUM-1667 $34.95-Master Cylinder 7/8" Tilton -TIL-74-875U $69.99-Motor Mount Pads -TRD-9314 $26.69-Zoom Performance Clutch -ZZZ-30006S $157.69 Ebay-Chevy II Oil Pan for rear sump $74.99 So far I have made motor mounts out of 1/4" plate and I will try to take pictures as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenmarrow Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Chevy II oil pan for rear sump??? Sounds like a standard oil pan then? Whats the diff.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_V8_Quest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 850 carb? hope she doesn't need premium gas :shock: post pics :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted February 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 The oil pan is notched to clear the steering assembly in the Novas just like it clears the steering assembly in the quest! Unfortunately it does drink premium. My digital camera was stolen a few weeks ago so I'll get pics asap but the old cell phone doesnt take the prettiest of pics. Here is a pic of my oil pan thoughhttp://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/42000091/Images/1/7480HZ.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenmarrow Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Wow looks like a great find.... I sure hope it fits... it will be the answer to SBC in thse cars....go go go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_V8_Quest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 My SBC threw a rod today :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted February 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 The pictures I posted before are with the engine seated on the oil pan. The engine may be a little farther back than with your setup Ken as I don't think I have room to get my tranny in without hammering on the firewall a little bit but I'll find out for sure tomorrow. Which SBC threw a rod and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOSTED88tsi Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 cuz its a chevy duh :wink: see now if it was a ford then there wouldnt have been a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted February 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Ford pssssh. Never had a problem with a Chevy engine I didnt cause myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenmarrow Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 The pictures I posted before are with the engine seated on the oil pan. The engine may be a little farther back than with your setup Ken as I don't think I have room to get my tranny in without hammering on the firewall a little bit but I'll find out for sure tomorrow. Which SBC threw a rod and why? Well I did massage the tunnel with a 12 pounder a TH350 is a bit bigger than a 5 spd. and dittos on the bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_V8_Quest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Which SBC threw a rod and why?The 350 in my 70 c10.That is why i hate a chevy..esp a 350...POS engines.I found another one locally that will go in the truck and then she will be on ebay.I will be buying a ford...never had a ford leave me on the side of the road.Every chevy I have ever owned has.if the deal on the 350 falls thru,I may try to find a good 327....I have had 2 of those before and both were great little engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenmarrow Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Vinnie, I will say this, Every truck I have owned was a Ford. My current Ford F150 has over 200,000 miles on it and it goes strong. Other than a few external parts I have never dun anything to it... ( I should not have said that)... I personally would never own a cheby truck...Like a rock sitting beside the road... Good luck pal... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy larry Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 260000 on my ford ranger and still wants to run. If only it would Die so I could drive the MOPAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_V8_Quest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Like a rock..hahaha...you are so right.Its on ebay :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Well I came to the conclusion that this particular oil pan wont work. Not without modification. There just wasnt enough room between the engine and the firewall. So I fixed it. Plasma cutter, tig welder and some spare sheet stock and its all fixed up. I took some pictures on a buddies camera so as soon as he emails them to me I'll post them. Now I have lots of room. It was a 6 quart oil pan to start with. Now the reservoir at the bottom of the pan holds a gallon. I'm not real sure where the six quart mark was before though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 -Oil pan successfully modded. -HEI Distributor fits. -Transmission has clearance. -Removed ABS My housemate Steve helped me hammer in the trans tunnel while I took out my ABS. I tried fighting with my master cylinder for the clutch but I'm just too damn big I swear to fit under that dash. I did unfortunately snap off my throttle tube in the engine bay while I was being a jackass. I'm going to trim my engine mounts a little bit to allow for some more clearance from rail to rail. If anyone has any tips on jacking up the transmission into place without a tranny jack I'd appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenmarrow Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Jacking up tranny.. Try this.. Set Tranny on belly side under car and have beer fed to you thru hose in floor. This will raise it into place. Beerdrolics.. Be careful I ripped rotator cuff last time I did mine with a floor jack as I caught it when it fell off jack.. Ouch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Beerdraulics lol. Here are two quick pics of my oil pan now. Sorry for the camera phone pics but since some retard stole my real camera I'm SOL til the swap is completed and I can spend money on other things again.http://preview.tdemitras.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8795210_1024.ts1172599358383.jpg and http://preview.tdemitras.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8795213_1024.ts1172599365472.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy larry Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I Did not have to mod my mopar oil pan. I did however have to square tube the frame around it. Trust me you will have to chop something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted March 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Wow...of course I just had to have a t56 transmission. Couldn't be happy with an automatic that I dont have to slide into the clutch assembly. That would have been too easy. Clearance has become quite the issue. The transmission fits where I want it however there is no room to get the engine and transmission together. I'm taking off the steering control arm in order to have another two inches of wiggle room back there to at least put it together. I'm wondering if I could drop that arm too. Put a step in it at each side to drop it down some and make even more room in there. Otherwise any time I go to change the clutch or anything else for that matter I'm going to have to take apart the entire assembly. Anyone have any advice on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenmarrow Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Tom, When I pull the tranny I have same issues.. So I pull Dist. and four of the six motor mount bolts and let rear of engine lower so I geta little more clearance back there...and pull the 4 crossmember bolts too ,Oh BTW remove engine to tranny bolts before you lower it and viseversa..Once you do it a few times it gets ez.. and get a good clutch.. If you do find a way of lowering the pitman arm and linkages let me know... I would love to drop it two inches too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted March 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 I went and spoke with my inspection mechanic today. His shop is directly across the street from my house. Great guy and if you're in Erie take him some business. I borrow more of his tools than you can count and I just buy him a case of beer once in a while to keep him happy. Anyways the deal with the pitman arm is you are allowed to weld in vertical offsets if and only if you have a reconstructed title. Now considering my swap I should indeed have a reconstructed title but of course have no intentions on getting on so I guess the easiest idea is out. Unless of course I weld it, grind it and paint it again so it looks stock. I highly doubt anyone is going to break out a picture of it just to check inspection. I put in a picture of my intention in case anyone was wondering too. However.....its probably not really too wise to be going around welding on something that is that critical. You're kinda in a world of crap if it breaks so I'll probably try to just work around it. http://preview.tdemitras.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8859118_1024.ts1172857779434.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propeine Posted March 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I gave in to the car gods and did what I thought I should have done in the first place. An automatic may fit with a small block and a t56 may fit with a g54B but they sure as hell wouldnt fit together so....see the pictures. I just made more work for myself but it will look cleaner in the long run. They never said this was gonna be easy afterall. http://preview.tdemitras.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8871741_1024.ts1172902386623.jpghttp://preview.tdemitras.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8871742_1024.ts1172902393818.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I dont know if this will help but superhomes Put his way!!!! back in the firewall.link to picks.http://www.26liter.us/gallery/displayimage...0&pos=-4061 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_V8_Quest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I dont know if this will help but superhomes Put his way!!!! back in the firewall.link to picks.http://www.26liter.us/gallery/displayimage...0&pos=-4061 8)holy god,why?Hope the dist never needs maintenance :shock: or spark plugs needs replacing :shock: you cheby owners.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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