Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) So the car I picked up a couple weeks ago doesnt build boost. Also the tps can't be adjust to .5v closest I can get it to is .32v. Can someone post a good pic of a nearly stock engine bay so I can see where some of the plugs go that are missing? One is the deleted egr. One sensor is broken off. Just a jungle of wiring. Edited January 22, 2014 by Skinny Dr Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think that the first thing you should do is download the FSM and read the Fuel Section which shows the engines fuel system vacuum tubing and what sensors are where. Second thing is look at this link which has some darn good info in it about the Starquest's engines and drive train. http://starquest.i-x...wforum.php?f=12 Especially see http://starquest.i-x...opic.php?t=2599 and this one which shows the EGR http://starquest.i-x...opic.php?t=1219 and this SQC FAQ about the vacuum lines http://www.starquest...howtopic=117852 Third thing is take close up pictures of "the tubing jungle" that you have and post them here on your post. We can not give you advice unless we see what you've got and you tell us what sensor is broken off. I'd also suggest making a post in the Parts Wanted Forum for getting a good TPS. And once you get it, do an ISC/TPS reset per http://www.starquest...showtopic=28069 Probably the reasons you are not building boost is the vacuum lines going to the Turbo waste gate actuator are FUBAR or incorrectly hooked up or the turbo pressure relief solenoid valve is not hooked up correctly See FSM page 11-11 for how to test it. Now you've got a game plan. Keep us informed as to what you find and post the pictures of what you've got so we can further help or clarify stuff for you. For What It's Worth. KEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) The wastegate is hooked up properly. The car has an HX35W turbo and Tial wastegate. That isn't the issue. I wanted a picture to look at the sensors. The FSM is to small to read on my phone. The tps I can see buying a new one and starting fresh with it. Not sure where the o2 plug is either but its missing the factory sensor as well.I'm going to rebuild the turbo and smoke test the intake for air leaks. Also pressure test the piping for boost leaks. Will post pictures this weekend. Edited January 22, 2014 by Skinny Dr Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 The Watergate is hooked up properly. The car has an HX35W turbo and Tial wastegate. That isn't the issue. I wanted a picture to look at the sensors. The FSM is to small to read on my phone. The tps I can see buying a new one and starting fresh with it. Not sure where the o2 plug is either but its missing the factory sensor as well. The O2 sensor is located on the exhaust down pipe coming out of the turbo waste gate assembly. Rather than "Watergate" I think you meant waste gate. The links that I gave you have copious pictures of the intake manifold assembly showing the vacuum tubing & sensors and so does the FSM. As to being able to see the details of 'em on your cell phone I can not help you there. For What It's Worth. KEN PS - When you say your engine doesn't build boost, what does the dash turbo boost indicator (it's only an approximation) indicate what boost is when you nail your Lady with WOT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Dash says about 3 psi. AEM wideband failsafe gauge reads zero. Bov doesn't go off either. It could possibly be the rfl bov I put on it so I'm going to put a different one on to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Dash says about 3 psi. AEM wideband failsafe gauge reads zero. Bov doesn't go off either. It could possibly be the rfl bov I put on it so I'm going to put a different one on to check. What the hell is a "rfl" blow off valve? To keep us on the main subject, make sure that ALL of your vacuum tubing is installed per the FSM and the other links that I posted in reply #2 above. One of the links addresses where to tap off of the engine vacuum system tubing for the correct operation of your after market BOV. Maybe your BOV is FUBAR. It happens more than you would suspect. For What It's Worth. KEN PS - Just found a close up picture of the G54B T turbo vacuum tubing that Jeff posted. Hope that this helps but it doesn't show the vacuum tubing to the waste gate system, AC system and cruise control. http://i463.photobuc...to/DSC03434.jpg Looking at it futher, even with enlarging the picture, you can't REALLY tell where ALL of the tubing goes to & comes from. There is just too much tubing in too small a space to see how/where they all run and where ALL of the connections are. You are gonna have to use the links I provided you in reply #2 above and the FSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dred_85.5_TSI Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 RFL = Really F-ing Loud. Like annoyingly loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 What the hell is a "rfl" blow off valve? To keep us on the main subject, make sure that ALL of your vacuum tubing is installed per the FSM and the other links that I posted in reply #2 above. One of the links addresses where to tap off of the engine vacuum system tubing for the correct operation of your after market BOV. Maybe your BOV is FUBAR. It happens more than you would suspect. For What It's Worth. KENRFL = Really F-ing Loud. Like annoyingly loud. :lol: :lol: Glad you clarified that!!!! :lol: For What It's Worth. KEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 The FSM isn't going to help with the vacuum lines. How does the factory boost gauge work? There isn't any vacuum lines going to it or anything that would control it. The sensor on the thermostat housing does what exactly? Its a small sensor with one connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Going to work on the car Saturday. I will post pics and let you know what I find. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 http://i42.tinypic.com/wrga4m.jpgCan anyone tell me what that little sensor that is broken off does? Which sensor controls the fans? Boost issue fixed. Turbo what wore out and exhaust turbine was hitting housing. Feels good to have boost again. Haven't had it since my Integra 3 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 The FSM isn't going to help with the vacuum lines. How does the factory boost gauge work? There isn't any vacuum lines going to it or anything that would control it. The sensor on the thermostat housing does what exactly? Its a small sensor with one connector.Can anyone tell me what that little sensor that is broken off does? Which sensor controls the fans? By reading your above two replies it is VERY evident that you have not looked at the links that I provided in my reply which is #2 above. "Second thing is look at this link which has some darn good info in it about the Starquest's engines and drive train. http://starquest.i-x...wforum.php?f=12 Especially see http://starquest.i-x.net/viewtopic.php?t=1097 and this one which shows the EGR http://starquest.i-x...opic.php?t=1219 and this SQC FAQ about the vacuum lines http://www.starquest...howtopic=117852 " All of the answers to your questions are covered in those links. Unless you learn by reading and looking at those links, we can't help you, cuz you may not have the foggiest idea what we are talking about. The thermosensors for the radiator fans are on the lower pan of the radiator - which you would know if you looked at the links. The sensor with the broken off metal terminal is shown at a couple of places in those links and tells what it is how to test and/or replace it. Have you bothered to look at the SQC FAQ about the vacuum lines yet? Evidently not - cuz you keep coming back to the FSM. Which by the way does show the vacuum tubing system..Once again, It's time to start reading - you have to make a effort to learn your Starquest cuz we ain't gonna spoon feed you when in many instances you wouldn't have the faintest idea of what we are talking about or where it is. For What It's Worth. KEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Didn't ask about vacuum lines again. I did read those links but didn't see where it said what each sensor is exactly. The FSM is pointless for you to refer me to because I do not have a computer to look at it on as stated about that my phone it to hard to view it. In all the time it took you to write that, you could have just named the sensor. The egr is deleted so I don't need to know about that either. The car is molded is why I ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Most of the images aren't showing up on those links. So words with no pictures are pointless when they refer to a picture.I will figure it out on my own. Just thought someone who has owned one of these cars for awhile would be a little nicer but I guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Most of the images aren't showing up on those links. So words with no pictures are pointless when they refer to a picture.I will figure it out on my own. Just thought someone who has owned one of these cars for awhile would be a little nicer but I guess not. Well then I would suggest that you have a problem with your cell phone (as stated in your reply #3 of this post of the type of computer/cell phone that you are using). Cuz the images in the links that I referenced show up perfectly fine on my computer, and these same links were linked in countless other problem posts on SQC have shown up perfectly fine for other SQC'rs to rectify their problems. I'm trying to be "nice" to you - but you have a problem on your end as to viewing any images that are shown in my links that I provided or viewing the FSM. As a suggestion, view the links/FSM on a laptop or desk top to see the links/images/FSM. BTW - the broken off metal terminal on your intake manifold is the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (that enables or disables the AC system depending upon engine coolant temperature) which is shown on FSM page 24- 35, 69, 70 and has a picture of it in link http://starquest.i-x...opic.php?t=1097 Don't play games! We are here to help but you have to figure out how to make the info we provide readable and usable. If you are really a "Doctor" as your avatar suggests "Skinny Dr Mitch" , then you should be fully aware of the "scientific method" and the importance of verifying whatever info is uncovered/provided during that "method" as correct/accurate/applicable by whatever means that you have to go through to correct your problem. For What It's Worth. KEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Dr Mitch Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Well then I would suggest that you have a problem with your cell phone (as stated in your reply #3 of this post of the type of computer/cell phone that you are using). Cuz the images in the links that I referenced show up perfectly fine on my computer, and these same links were linked in countless other problem posts on SQC have shown up perfectly fine for other SQC'rs to rectify their problems. I'm trying to be "nice" to you - but you have a problem on your end as to viewing any images that are shown in my links that I provided or viewing the FSM. As a suggestion, view the links/FSM on a laptop or desk top to see the links/images/FSM. BTW - the broken off metal terminal on your intake manifold is the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (that enables or disables the AC system depending upon engine coolant temperature) which is shown on FSM page 24- 35, 69, 70 and has a picture of it in link http://starquest.i-x.net/viewtopic.php?t=1097 Don't play games! We are here to help but you have to figure out how to make the info we provide readable and usable. If you are really a "Doctor" as your avatar suggests "Skinny Dr Mitch" , then you should be fully aware of the "scientific method" and the importance of verifying whatever info is uncovered/provided during that "method" as correct/accurate/applicable by whatever means that you have to go through to correct your problem. For What It's Worth. KEN As I said in my previous post. I will figure it out. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Mitch, try the links again especially http://starquest.i-x...opic.php?t=1097 The pictures JUST suddenly reappeared in the SOS Manual topics after being gone for a year or so. PM me your phone number and we can talk about getting your new Lady to be everything that she can be. For What It's Worth. KEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Doesn't the coolant temp sensor give the ecu info about how to lean/enrich the a/f mixture based on temperature? It does on anything I've ever worked on anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Doesn't the coolant temp sensor give the ecu info about how to lean/enrich the a/f mixture based on temperature? It does on anything I've ever worked on anyway. Remember there are 2 Engine coolant temp sensors on the Starquests intake manifold assembly. One of 'em is the single metal electrical terminal Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (that enables or disables the AC system depending upon engine coolant temperature). The other is the 2 metal electrical terminal Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (which has variable output voltage depending upon cooolant temp) that tells the EFI ECU what temperature the engine is at so the ECU (also using other input voltages from other sensors) knows where to be in the Open Loop or Closed loop fuel maps which are in it's ROM. See FSM page 14- 4 & especially 14 - 14. For What It's Worth. KEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Remember there are 2 Engine coolant temp sensors on the Starquests intake manifold assembly. One of 'em is the single metal electrical terminal Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (that enables or disables the AC system depending upon engine coolant temperature). The other is the 2 metal electrical terminal Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (which has variable output voltage depending upon cooolant temp) that tells the EFI ECU what temperature the engine is at so the ECU (also using other input voltages from other sensors) knows where to be in the Open Loop or Closed loop fuel maps which are in it's ROM. See FSM page 14- 4 & especially 14 - 14. For What It's Worth. KENGood info. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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