v8starion Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I See it on a flatty. But if anybody has widebody info (besides it cant be done,Why do that?, Id use brakes of a STI,EVO,School bus,Space Shuttle) Any info to help get it done.Thanks. Is this on a widebody? 3kgt caliper? if so what rotor? source for bracket? fit in a stock 16"? Any info at all. Please.http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10108/HPIM1858.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahjah Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 ya know... i'd been meaning to ask this for awhile too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I just picked up these Test parts. So I'm goin in one way or another. A little intell would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahjah Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I just picked up these Test parts. So I'm goin in one way or another. A little intell would be nice.not a bad deal at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 slowquest gave me an update The rotors are from a 2000 Crown Vic and the bracket is a one of a kind test piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Well the center hole in a 2000 crown vic rotor is about .160 to small. Not really a big deal cuz the rest of it looks good. The calipers came. They are BIG. http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4286.jpg But they seem to just fit. I test fit the vic rotor w/ caliper inside a 7" wheel. It seems there is about .250 clearance. Close enough that its worth drawing up a bracket. http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4296.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4292.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowquest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I seriously don't remember having the issue with the center hole. What diameter are those rotors? They look smaller than mine for some reason. I'm wondering if there were different brake options on the Crown Vic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I seriously don't remember having the issue with the center hole. What diameter are those rotors? They look smaller than mine for some reason. I'm wondering if there were different brake options on the Crown Vic?12.5" It was the only one listed. The center hole is small and it has a tapered seat. So it fits over the hub but it does not seat square. It just needs to be opened up a little on a lathe. Maybe there is another rotor. I will look again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowquest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 hmm, that was a few years ago that i did that swap, so...... when god made me, he told me i could only have one long thing.....I didn't choose memory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmyers151 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) Man that looks close. If this works out, I might wanna try this on mine, more braking never hurt anyone. EDIT: One thing I forgot to ask when we were looking at those yesterday; are extra 3 pots and associated fluid capacity going to necessitate a larger master cylinder and/or reservoir? Edited March 16, 2010 by dmyers151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) I'm sure it draws more fluid. How much more is the question. The pistons are smaller so I have to do the math and fighure the volume out. Edited March 26, 2010 by v8starion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmyers151 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Sounds good. Lemme know if you need a hand with any of that stuff. I've got some 3D CAD software on my laptop that makes calcs like that a breeze and super accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) Here is some more info for anybody going down this road.The center hole of the 2000 Crown Vic rotor is .150 smaller than the SQ rotor & hub. The holes for the lug studs are also .100 larger. http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4305.jpg I roughed out a bracket and I think the set up will clear the inside of a 16" wheel. I will know the answer after I bore the center hole on the rotor. Then I will be able to bolt it all together. http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4310.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4306.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4307.jpg Edited March 26, 2010 by v8starion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmyers151 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Good stuff Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquest1988 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Nice work man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstar88 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 ohh man!, that looks sexy! good stuff man! Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowquest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 would you be willing to trace that bracket onto a piece of cardboard and sell it? It looks much better than what I came up with....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 would you be willing to trace that bracket onto a piece of cardboard and sell it? It looks much better than what I came up with....lolI hated moving it to the front of the wheel.(cooling) But it wouldnt clear the stock mounting tabs. So I clocked it up as far as I could. Till the top mounting bolt is next to the strut body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwbrocloud Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nice. . . i see a thread in the future that reads: "Custom 3kgt brake brackets for sale" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 You very well may. But it won't be started by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Still moving forward on this. Slowly. I machined the rotor. It is a nice fit. It has to be opened up .150. I had to make a pair of spacers(.180) to go between the adapter plate and the stock caliper mount. I countersunk the holes and used tapered bolts. You could get away without them,But its close. To space the caliper off the adapter plate I need to make another set of spacers(.312). But I think I will make those Threaded and TIG them on. That will give me more than .500 of thread to bolt them on. Probably more than I need. I know they will work,But after all this I hope it fits inside a stock wheel. http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4344.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4349.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4347.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4355.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4354.jpg Edited March 30, 2010 by v8starion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahjah Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/Projects/CIMG4354.jpgmoney shot! damn thats nice looking man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8starion Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) Well this will shortly be a dead issue for me and my stock wheels. The package as it sits is just under 8" from the center of the spindle to the outside of the caliper. It does not fit. I machined some nutserts from 1" steel to give the caliper a good mounting footprint & TIGed them into the bracket. Then mounted it all up. Just to get the bad news. I will look at a smaller rotor? or other options but I think it is game over for me. It would be nice inside a larger wheel.http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/CIMG4364.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/CIMG4362.jpghttp://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/camostarquest/CIMG4360.jpg Edited April 1, 2010 by v8starion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmyers151 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Darn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahjah Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 ever thought of 4 piston calipers on stock rotors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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