patra_is_here Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I'm gonna guess CO will limit magazine capacity.someone will suggest metal detectors at movie theaters and guards at movie theaters.and conservatives will blame the liberal media for brainwashing him, liberals will a lack of community support for the shooter which would have alerted us to his mental state, and people will announce that they are praying for the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMNDSTAR87 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 so many people carry concealed weapons these days I am amazed when something like this happens where a couple hundred people are gathered and not a single person returns fire----this guy had body armor of some sort on so majority of peoples concealed hanguns probably would not have done much but maybe would have gotten the guy to cease his slaughter after getting hit a couple times----i will not sit here and say shoot for the legs or a head shot cause with all the chaos precision shots would be next to impossible in that enviornment-----another thing is hitting innocents when returning fire wich is problematic----all I know is stuff like this makes me feel better about always having a loaded handgun on my person anywhere its legal to do so----just my thoughtsgig out 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 well i thought CO was pretty tight on concealed weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMNDSTAR87 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 well i thought CO was pretty tight on concealed weapons.i am not familiar with concealed laws in CO so I can't say----If ur correct than maybe thats why he did it where he did----who knows what was going through that scumbags pile of mush between his ears----gig out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jszucs Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 ^ can't carry into any theaters or really 99.5% of any places around me (posted no carry) so that eliminates that while it's locked up in your car. Also don't forget most people are sheep and when stuff like this goes down are to dumb / hystarical to even hit the floor. Typicly only a small mindset (and those who are trained) act in a situation like this. I phrase that another way. Most people donot run into a burning building (IE only fire fighers who are trained and your one or two random heros) As for what the spin will be. . O it's the vilonet moves, and the bullieing he got. It's sad people can't just be crazy any more were so PC You want to stop this, take down the stupid no carry signs, or even better yet just let me walk around strapped up ready to go with whatever I see fit to carry (and yes I know open carry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 yeah, really all it takes is one trained, armed person and the death toll could have been less. yeah, and you can bet they will blame the video games, and movies, and whatever. when really, there was just something wrong with his brain. only a neurological issue would cause someone to rationally and logically accept that killing all those people was the correct thing to do. he had to be 'crazy' in some form or another. it sounds like he was really smart too, so maybe he had some sort of breakdown and his brain went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 i can see it all now,,he was fearing for his life ( some one spill'd their drink on him ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOHO Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I'm sure many of them will say gun control laws aren't strict enough. Like you said. You can't blame a tragedy like this on the weapons. He had/has a serious problem and this was his way of lashing out....Its been happening since the beginning of modern mankind....Sad for the victims and familys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jszucs Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 it sounds like he was really smart too It's alwasy the smart one's.... the dumb one's are alreayd locked up or dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_C. Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 In CO it is okay to have a concealed in a theatre. Sorry to say most churches have at least 3 people carrying during services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) i can see it all now,,he was fearing for his life ( some one spill'd their drink on him ) not sure if you've read the news, but he walked in through the fire exist in full riot gear with an ar-15, two handguns, and a shot gun , ignited smoke bombs and opened fire on the crowd. His apartment was booby trapped with enough explosives to blow up the adjoining buildings. Edited July 20, 2012 by patra_is_here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 not sure if you've read the news, but he walked in through the fire exist in full riot gear with an ar-15, two handguns, and a shot gun , ignited smoke bombs and opened fire on the crowd. His apartment was booby trapped with enough explosives to blow up the adjoining buildings. , i was only jokeing, the truth is we'l spend 30-40 years paying thru the nose to take care of this worthless but wipe and spend millions rather then the $.50 we need to spend eliminateing them from the gene pooland others will suffer for the rest of their lives over what he has done every fire door i have ever seen was only openable from the inside , so he must have been inside at some point and rig'd the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 or, like many exits, they just weren't closed. heck, even at my local movie theater you can walk in the exits because the last people out never fully close them. I by fire exit i meant that it's an exit and also the exit in case of emergency. not necessarily an alarmed exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metric-man Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) http://en.wikipedia....Aurora_shooting 13 years and 3 months earlier http://en.wikipedia....School_massacre Personally I think walk in movie theaters are over priced and over rated. They under pay their employees and over work their managers. Pay $20 for admission, a small popcorn, a watered down soda, and an opporutity contract head liceto top it off now a place to maybe get shot or stabbed? I'll wait for the DVD thank you!!! Edited July 21, 2012 by Metric-man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turborusty Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 If you check the policy on that theater, they don't allow citizens to lagally carry firearms in their theater, nearly ensuring that no one can defend themselves in such a situation. That being said, body armor or not.....hit him ANYWHERE with a force of 400+lb'ft and he's going to be interrupted for sure. His armor only increases his chance of survival from bullet penetration, he can't effectively dissapate all of that kinetic energy. I predict all the lefties trying to crack down on the legal gun owners...........such a terrible shame that it's the direct opposite of what makes sense from a public safety standpoint.. Turborusty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I will suspect the politicals will all cry responsible gun control, it's the political right thing to do at that moment. Political ideology flows with the wind, regardless if it's right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliber308 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I can hear it now..."We need Gun Control, if we had it this would have never happened" BLAH, BLAH , BLAH. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turborusty Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) Precisely why I now carry mine every day, everywhere I'm legally allowed to do so. I put it on when I get dressed in the A.M. and I put it away when I get undressed for bed. Turborusty Edited July 21, 2012 by Turborusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 This was the act one crazy messed up guy, has nothing to do with guns or gun-control. But they will spin it to be. Just like when a dog bites some kid and it's all over tv, they spin it that it's necessary to control that evil breed of dog. They demonize whatever will sell newspapers or internet articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoFab Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 A friend of mine lost his sister in this incident. Please keep all the victims and their families in your thoughts and prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 you know there is one quarranty'd way to stop this sort of thing ,, you got the guy red hand'd no doubt about 'did he do it' on the spot justice 3 rounds in the head , no hype no doctors no internet famedon't so much as release the trash bags name no 15 min,,there will be no reason to look for glorry or fame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averse Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I think to say that gun control laws have nothing to do with this incident is a biased opinion. They may not be the single or biggest factor, but they undoubtedly make it easier for someone to do this kind of thing, so maybe it wouldnt happen so often if it were a little bit more controlled. I do think they could make laws to restrict weapons that have a designed value to kill other humans more restricted from getting into open society but still be accessable to citizens on ranges, etc... it would make this happen less often or at least with less tragic loss of life. I also predict the "viollence in entertainment" argument may come up as well, again. Reportedly this guy had red hair and was calling himself the Joker. Again, while it is not the major impact of why this guy did it, the continuing trend of desensitizing violence in games and movies DO impact us. For most of us, we can handle it and separate reality from it. For those who have serious problems, it pushes them further along the dangerous end of a continuum. I also think it is rather naive to think that anyone with a handgun had a prayer of doing anything other than becoming a target of choice in that scenerio considering the confusion of the environment and the odds of the situation. Anyone remember the Bank of America robberies in North Hollywood? It took 1300+ rounds and a SWAT team a long time to take those two down in an open, outside environment. Anything less than ballistic armament was useless for them. This guy had a dark room where he deployed smoke and/or tear gas first and significant time of surprise while people thought he was a prank, promotional stunt, or just part of the movie noise. The entire event lasted 3 minutes according to a news report. That's one person shot every 2.5 seconds. I wonder if it is going to take our society collectively making a United Flight 93 pact where everyone develops an understanding that as soon as someone goes off like this, the entire crowd knows to immediately bumrush the guy with the understanding that some individuals will die in the process yet it will be less life lost than if everyone is out for themselves. THAT is the conversation I would like to hear in the media moreso than another argument about gun control or violence in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer_amx Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I wonder if it is going to take our society collectively making a United Flight 93 pact where everyone develops an understanding that as soon as someone goes off like this, the entire crowd knows to immediately bumrush the guy with the understanding that some individuals will die in the process yet it will be less life lost than if everyone is out for themselves. THAT is the conversation I would like to hear in the media moreso than another argument about gun control or violence in the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 you know there is one quarranty'd way to stop this sort of thing ,, you got the guy red hand'd no doubt about 'did he do it' on the spot justice 3 rounds in the head , no hype no doctors no internet famedon't so much as release the trash bags name no 15 min,,there will be no reason to look for glorry or fame Judge Dredd time! Yeah! lol If only they could save the tax payers all that money and get it over that quick. It's a sad tragedy for those who lost loved and for all us human beings, we are interconnected. Now, millions of dollars is gonna be speant on this clown, charging him, housing him, prosecuting him, then its health care, mental care, protecting him etc etc. I don 't see a need to study or try to understand a crazy person like that. But millions will be speant by doc's and psyc's trying to find causal reasons for his actions. "oh he was molested, or he was abused, or he suffered some horrific event" blah blah blah to give an excuse for what he did. He's crazy, a psycho, lets leave it as that, his actions prove it, now speedy up the legal process, lets put a lethal needle in the bastage and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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