flattiefan Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Ok so heres whats going on I wired my msd 6a ignition box and tach adapter up basically just like this http://image.carcraft.com/f/9295769+w750+st0/ccrp_0805_02_z+tech_questions+MSD_wiring_schematic.jpgthere isnt a tach adapter in that wirng but its white and red wires are in the same place as the igntion box. The problem Im having is as soon as I put the hot and ground wire to the msd ignition box on the battery. its as if im turning the key to on inside the car. the seat belts move, guages come on, makes beeping sounds, etc...NO key in the car. Im stumped! could there be something wrong with my ignition box? I did buy it used. The only thing I can think of that could possibly be wrong with the wiring is the ignition box and my ecu and my new injector, fuel pump relays are all sharing the same 12 volt switched wire. I would love love love some help of any kind.. Ideas anything... Thanks for looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87star Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Anything else connected to the + on the coil? Something is feeding power backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefan Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I was wondering that myself. I still have all the stock stuff connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefan Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I removed the black wire with the green hood from the coil and it fixed it should I remove any of the other stock wires on the negative side?I have everything wired up correctly now just disconnected from the distributor. I still havent figured out which wire coming from the distributor should be the 12v switched wire. yellow or white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Make yourself a wiring diagram it will help in the end especially after you forget how you've did this. You have crossed some wires some place that shouldn't have been. Relays that are closing are causing wires in a series to have power that shouldn't that are feeding back to the ignition switch or control relay. Just because you have MS doesn't mean you throw out the control relay. The control relay is very useful and is a good item to retain. Edited March 3, 2012 by Indiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliber308 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Go to the Starquest FAQ Forum and read the wiring instructions on how to hook up a MSD 6al Ignition box and Tach Adapter. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefan Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I make myself a wiring diagram everytime I make a change. Im pretty sure I have everything msd wise hooked up correctly. People are always showing me diagrams that dont have the information I want. Since I first started this conversion I still havent got an answer on which distributor wire is 12v switched and its not on any diagram I have found. I have researched plenty.If I had a stock conquest in my drive way I would go out there and check it myself with a voltmeter but I dont.Im not trying to sound mean or anything and I appriciate everyones input but this is probably the most frustrating thing Ive done mechanically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I make myself a wiring diagram everytime I make a change. Im pretty sure I have everything msd wise hooked up correctly. People are always showing me diagrams that dont have the information I want. Since I first started this conversion I still havent got an answer on which distributor wire is 12v switched and its not on any diagram I have found. I have researched plenty.If I had a stock conquest in my drive way I would go out there and check it myself with a voltmeter but I dont.Im not trying to sound mean or anything and I appriciate everyones input but this is probably the most frustrating thing Ive done mechanicallyby chance did you try using a voltmeter to find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliber308 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Since I first started this conversion I still havent got an answer on which distributor wire is 12v switched and its not on any diagram I have found. 1987 Starion FSM Volume no.2 Section 8-154 Ignition System. P.S. It's the wire that goes from the Distributor to the positive side of the coil. P.S. The White wire is the positive wire that comes from the distributor. I.E. 1987 Starion FSM Volume no.1 Section 14 page 44. (Look at the bottom left side of the page). Bill Edited March 3, 2012 by Caliber308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefan Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 1987 Starion FSM Volume no.2 Section 8-154 Ignition System. P.S. It's the wire that goes from the Distributor to the positive side of the coil. P.S. The White wire is the positive wire that comes from the distributor. I.E. 1987 Starion FSM Volume no.1 Section 14 page 44. (Look at the bottom left side of the page). BillFor some reason I cant look at the 87 FSM. I had looked at the 88 FSM before I asked here and it doesnt have an ignition section. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrngwae Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) flatty,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you unplug your dizzy and look at the plug....... there are 3 posts....... top one,,,,,,,not used. bottom left 12v switched, bottom right signal out....... to your MS input wire.... you have the correct ignition module???? its CR125 part number from autozone,,,,,,has to be autozone trust me!!!!!!!!hope this helps. http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=127880 Edited March 4, 2012 by wrngwae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStock88 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 here you go;http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx254/notstock88/0c9a3be1copy.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStock88 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 i also found this.. hope these help; http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx254/notstock88/ECUInstall1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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