yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would like to buy new wheels for my flatty and am having trouble finding the ones I like and the ones that will fit! What are the offsets for an 86 flatty and is there a wheel like the M-sport that fits on the wide bodies for the flatties, as that would be my preference Thanks for your help! Suzanne[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Bolt pattern for the flatty is 4x114.3 or 4x4.5 ( depending on the brand of rim ) with a +18mm offset. You'll probably need adapters/spacers. http://www.sportmaxwheel.com/ that's a decent site to start off with www.takumiproject.com is another site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 there are a few posts in this forum on rims. Stock is 4lug on 114.3. stock rims are 18mm offset but chances of finding that are really slim. Are you looking to go larger/wider? a member named kitt managed to get 18x10 rims on the back with +12mm offset i think and 18x8 front with 12mm offset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would like to put on the skiiny tire so I think it would be wider? Please correct me if I am wrong...I have no clue when it comes to wheels N tires Thanks Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I really like the m-sport rim and a tire that is wider rather than being thick like the ones on the car now, sorry I can only describe the tire, but Fanta knows the rims I like... Would you have any suggestions shift1313 Sorry ..truly dunce when it comes to offsets, tires N wheels :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 if your talking about the adr msport then the standard offset is like 35mm to 40mm. my stock flatty rims are 15" and 6.5" wide. I think yours are 14" and 6" wide. both with the same 18mm offset. when you talk about rims there are usually two terms thrown around. Backspacing and offset. Increasing negative offset will move the rim inwards towards the suspension. Decreasing negative offset will move the wheel toward the fender. here is a good picture http://www.speedace.info/tyre_images/wheel_rim_offset_diagram.gif offset is measured from the centerline of the rim to the back mounting surface of the rim(where it bolts to the car). So your starion rim is 18mm off center. One thing to think about is if you go with a wider rim the offset is going to be different because you need to keep the inside edge of the rim away from the suspension. for instance the 18x8" rim that had a 12mm offset. the centerline of the rim is 4", then add +12mm offset(roughly 1/2"), from the back face where the rim mounts you have 4.5" inward towards your suspension. The stock 6.5" rim on my car have an 18mm offset and that puts 3.95" on teh inside towards the suspension. finding rims that fit these cars isnt the easiest thing in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thanks for the nice pictoral representation, I put a copy of it in the FAQ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thanks Matt, that pic helps alot! So if I want to go with the adr msport I would need 35mm and 40mm offsets? I am assuming the 35mm is the front and the 40mm is the rear. Hhmmmm, now for tires...I like the ones that are skinny but somewhat wide...if that makes any sense at all! Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAflatty Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 :shock: wow, that is a really good explanation shift!!! and the graphic help people picture it. as i was reading the thread i was trying to think how to explain it to help her out but i can't beat that!!! good job :wink: and i might save your graphic for the next time some one ask me about this.... copy... print.... haha, good job. hope you can find some wheels you like yoshi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 heheheh,,,I have searched all over and I quess when one doesn't know what they are looking for it doesn't much help...LOL... Thanks apreciate your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yes AGAIN A HUGE THANK YOU FOR THAT PICTORIAL DESCRIPTION!!! IT REALLY IS A BIG HELP!!! i WILL SAVE IT ALSO,,,CUZ MOST LIKELY HAVE TO KEEP REFERRING TO IT...lol :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thanks GAflatty,,,ME TOO...gotta look sharp putting down the highway..NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAflatty Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 haha at least your car is till straight. and you don't get depressed every time you look at it because you went and did something dumb like wreck it> :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 i just searched for the pic in google and thats what came up. also if they refer to backspacing that is the distance to the mounting surface from the back of the rim. the 35mm and 40mm is what those rims are offered in. I dont know if they will fit or not though. 40mm offset on a 7" wide 17" rim. 40mm is roughly 1.6" and the center of a 7" rim is 3.5" so you have 5.2 inches from the mounting surface of the rim going toward your suspension. i dont know if that will fit or now. I would guess no but you never know. what happens and what you will see is most people say they run wheel spacers. if you do that you need longer lugs on your hubs. like i said the stock offset of these cars doesnt make rim shopping easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Nice flatty by the way GAflatty...you wouldn't happen to have another airdam collecting dust somewhere would you? Just thought I would ask. Suzanne(yoshi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thing is, the ADR MSports come pretty wide, and with their offset's, you'll hav them sticking out past your fender, so you'll look like those mexican cars. http://www.1010tires.com/wheel.asp?wheelbr...t+-+Hyper+Black Also, the smallest diameter is a 17" and its a 40mm offset. You'd probably would want to go with some lowering springs to make it look correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Nice flatty by the way GAflatty...you wouldn't happen to have another airdam collecting dust somewhere would you? Just thought I would ask. Suzanne(yoshi) He's fixing his as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAflatty Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 luckily my airdam wasn't damage in my little accident or i would be hunting for that aswell!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thanks Fanta for the site info! I will check them out, but if you happen to come across something please let me know! MomoopsYoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thanks Fanta for the site info! I will check them out, but if you happen to come across something please let me know! MomoopsYoshi check out the links in my first post ( the sportmaxwheels ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Well heck no, I don't want my wheels sticking out past my fender wells..so the 18's would do that? So I need to look for 17's OK I am getting a big headache now, just when I thought I understood this stuff :roll: :shock: :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I sure am glad your airdam is not damaged otherwise I would have another competitor...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Well heck no, I don't want my wheels sticking out past my fender wells..so the 18's would do that? So I need to look for 17's OK I am getting a big headache now, just when I thought I understood this stuff :roll: :shock: :cry: 18s would make your car ride high. So would 17s ( they might look decet on the flatty, but you MAY have to lower it to make it look correctly and not like a monster truck ) Offset and rim width would determine how far out the rim sticks out. I think your maximum would be 7" in width ( I could be wrong ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Ok Fanta...what do you mean lowering springs? for the fronts or rears, please don't say both :shock: Yes I agree it needs to have the proper stance without losing the handling capability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAflatty Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 you MAY have to lower it to make it look correctly and not like a monster truck ) don't you know that monster turck cars are cool now!!!!! :roll: http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i245/bkbenson83/MISC/donk-car.jpg oh that cracks me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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