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[Turbo_Addict]

pancake88, on 22 April 2011 - 05:55 PM, said:

Hey first thing I love the car second do you have pictures of the mount I got a motor from the machine shop I work at and was wanting to do this swap as well  
Thanks Tim

Thanks.  Here are a couple pics of the mounts.  And yes I have already replaced the mitsu portion of them with new ones.  
Drivers side:



Passenger side:

[Bag-O-Chips]

BrazilBoy, on 23 April 2011 - 12:10 AM, said:

Oops lol I didn't see that

[Dave-O]

Oh man this is fresh. Can't wait to see this thing completed!

There are tons of 6G72s around my neck of the woods ... hmmm ...  

[Michaels_RT]

Ok so this might be a random post but I figured I would chime in as I am probably going to be picking up a Starion again here in the next week. I just sold my 96 Stealth and I still have my DD fwd 3000GT TT conversion.

Anyways, now to the relevance of my post. I was planning the very same thing with my Starion. I have 3 complete engines already, one of them being a built 4 bolt with forged internals and PnP heads. I wasn't planning to run turbos anywhere near as large as yours lol, but I do have a similar intake manifold design going on my car.

I am very impressed with your setup man. Cant wait to see the development. My questions are si liar to what has been asked, I just missed any answers thus far. What transmission are you running? Is it the Starion tranny w/ adapter plate? Very interested in that portion.

Mine will be a little more modest with the turbo sizes, planning on some 16t's or something of that sizing. Anyways, long post over. Very nice setup man. In for more pics!

[mistapickles]

Michaels_RT, on 19 May 2011 - 02:41 AM, said:

Ok so this might be a random post but I figured I would chime in as I am probably going to be picking up a Starion again here in the next week. I just sold my 96 Stealth and I still have my DD fwd 3000GT TT conversion.

Anyways, now to the relevance of my post. I was planning the very same thing with my Starion. I have 3 complete engines already, one of them being a built 4 bolt with forged internals and PnP heads. I wasn't planning to run turbos anywhere near as large as yours lol, but I do have a similar intake manifold design going on my car.

I am very impressed with your setup man. Cant wait to see the development. My questions are si liar to what has been asked, I just missed any answers thus far. What transmission are you running? Is it the Starion tranny w/ adapter plate? Very interested in that portion.

Mine will be a little more modest with the turbo sizes, planning on some 16t's or something of that sizing. Anyways, long post over. Very nice setup man. In for more pics!

Do you have any spare turbo heads or know where I could get a set?

[Turbo_Addict]

Michaels_RT, on 19 May 2011 - 02:41 AM, said:

Ok so this might be a random post but I figured I would chime in as I am probably going to be picking up a Starion again here in the next week. I just sold my 96 Stealth and I still have my DD fwd 3000GT TT conversion.

Anyways, now to the relevance of my post. I was planning the very same thing with my Starion. I have 3 complete engines already, one of them being a built 4 bolt with forged internals and PnP heads. I wasn't planning to run turbos anywhere near as large as yours lol, but I do have a similar intake manifold design going on my car.

I am very impressed with your setup man. Cant wait to see the development. My questions are si liar to what has been asked, I just missed any answers thus far. What transmission are you running? Is it the Starion tranny w/ adapter plate? Very interested in that portion.

Mine will be a little more modest with the turbo sizes, planning on some 16t's or something of that sizing. Anyways, long post over. Very nice setup man. In for more pics!

I was going to go with a TH-350 trans with an adapter plate, but now I am leaning towards ford C-4 with adapter plate.  It's a smaller bell, and has an option for a reverse starter setup, so for clearance and space reasons alone, it may be the better option.   Bill Hincher is working out the c4 details now, and hopefully will have something real soon.

[Ron Burgandy]

What engine did this originally come in? The 3000gt? And it looks crazy man can't wait to see a start up vid

[Convette]

thats beautiful man.  Nicely done.

[Turbo_Addict]

Ron Burgandy, on 19 May 2011 - 09:58 AM, said:

What engine did this originally come in? The 3000gt? And it looks crazy man can't wait to see a start up vid

Yup  92' 3000gt turbo..

Been on the road with work the past few weeks, but hoping to get some more progress in the near future.  Want to finish mounting everything up, get the IC and radiator in, and then start running wiring harnesses and all that fun stuff.   A long ways to go, but nice to see a little progress from time to time at least.

[Michaels_RT]

mistapickles, on 19 May 2011 - 04:44 AM, said:

Do you have any spare turbo heads or know where I could get a set?

Yeah I am sure we have a few sets of heads around here. Both DOHC NA and TT. They are pretty similar overall. The TT has slightly larger ports, but they are same outside of that...and the NA cams are a little better. Anyways, yeah I am sure between myself and the other people of our forums there are several sets of heads out there. What kind of condition are you looking for? Anything specific? Where are you located?

[Michaels_RT]

Turbo_Addict, on 19 May 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:

I was going to go with a TH-350 trans with an adapter plate, but now I am leaning towards ford C-4 with adapter plate.  It's a smaller bell, and has an option for a reverse starter setup, so for clearance and space reasons alone, it may be the better option.   Bill Hincher is working out the c4 details now, and hopefully will have something real soon.

Ok so I have to ask, but why not just run the Starion transmission? Is there a reputation for failure at the HP numbers you are trying to reach? Would just seem simpler to adapt to that and go.

One other thing that was of concern from your pics. Seems small and you may have thought about it and figured it to be fine, but the oil return lines for the turbos are with those steel braided lines. It appears the line hangs lower than the return port. I would just be concerned about stalling of the oil flow. Is that something you have thought of and are OK with?

Just a thought. Looks awesome man!

Michael

[Bill Hincher]

Michaels_RT, on 19 May 2011 - 05:06 PM, said:

Ok so I have to ask, but why not just run the Starion transmission? Is there a reputation for failure at the HP numbers you are trying to reach? Would just seem simpler to adapt to that and go.

Michael

    It don't fit

[Turbo_Addict]

Bill Hincher, on 19 May 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

It don't fit

And it'd explode with what I want to throw at it.  hehe

[Michaels_RT]

Bill Hincher, on 19 May 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

It don't fit

Can you please elaborate? I am not questioning the validity as much as just curious as to why it wouldnt fit.

I dont doubt it grenading with that much power, but my goals are much more modest. Trying to determine what route I am going to have to go when/if I undertake this same project.
I am also only looking at the 350-400WHP range...

[Bill Hincher]

I went out and got a 6G72 engine and cut it up to see what it looked like inside and out
  
The GM auto trans plate overlaps the 6G72 v-6 bolt pattern  very nicely. because I can cast my adapters, I am not dictated to by a standard adapter plate thickness size, I can adjust to any thickness  I need

  

  the bolt pattern is nothing near the 4 bolt 4cyl G54b was, its all completely different
    there are two major problems in the packaging, first there was never a flex plate built for the 6G72, it was welded to the converter, but more importantly, the Starion steering linkage is a rear steer system, it had always come with a 4cyl engine with a high mount starter, so there is no room in a low area to mount a starter

   I need to build a system that is simple and cost effective, and put you in a position to build it so you can spend as much money as you want or as little as you want

[mistapickles]

Bill Hincher, on 19 May 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

It don't fit

http://6g72rwd.forum...e.com/index.php
they fit...and a freshly rebuilt Starion trans will handle whatever you throw at it, the non-rebuilt ones that people hook up to a S16G fail every time...

[Technology]

Turbo_Addict, on 24 April 2011 - 10:04 AM, said:

Well it's got Tial WG's and Garrett .63 mm turbos - I'll run with those and see how they perform.  I'm hoping to see around 750rwhp on high boost and race gas.  We'll see - I know that's setting the bar pretty high though.

lol. what is a garrett .63 mm turbo? less than a millimeter inlet, eh? I think you mean .63 a/r, and that only describes the size of the turbine housing. How big are the turbos? Also, a famous movie quote for your power wishes. You can wish in one hand, and crap in the other and see which gets filled first. lol

mistapickles, on 22 May 2011 - 02:03 AM, said:

http://6g72rwd.forum...e.com/index.php
they fit...and a freshly rebuilt Starion trans will handle whatever you throw at it, the non-rebuilt ones that people hook up to a S16G fail every time...

I want to do a sidestep on a 5500rpm 2-step at 30 psi with slicks. Will it handle that?

[Bill Hincher]

Technology, on 22 May 2011 - 06:50 AM, said:

lol. what is a garrett .63 mm turbo? less than a millimeter inlet, eh? I think you mean .63 a/r, and that only describes the size of the turbine housing. How big are the turbos? Also, a famous movie quote for your power wishes. You can wish in one hand, and crap in the other and see which gets filled first. lol



I want to do a sidestep on a 5500rpm 2-step at 30 psi with slicks. Will it handle that?

   show me the starter in Charles system? and why not a T 56?

[Funky Phil]

mistapickles, on 22 May 2011 - 02:03 AM, said:

http://6g72rwd.forum...e.com/index.php
they fit...and a freshly rebuilt Starion trans will handle whatever you throw at it, the non-rebuilt ones that people hook up to a S16G fail every time...

Have seen freshly rebuilt stockers with cryod gears explode. What, you think Chris Plebani wasnt trying to make it work?

btw, your sig is disturbing...........love it!

[Bill Hincher]

there are thee things required to fill out  this whole picture, a blower not turbo's, and auto trans with starter, and a remote water pump for the cooling system, I have them worked out