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#1 importwarrior

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:08 PM

well i failed inspection here in Virginia.
The reason is no EGR Valve. my car
never had one since before i purchased
it.i do have an EGR and can install it but
all the related items including the Charcoal
canister and thermal valve are gone. I want
to go MPI and don't know how i will ever pass
once that is complete.

anyone in Northern Virginia have any advice?

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:22 PM

Move a little south ;) I don't know how people in nova deal with the traffic and all that.. it kills me every time I'm up there haha.

In all seriousness, I don't know as my county dosent have emissions. I don't know if this is feasible but I have heard of people getting a PO box in a neighboring county and registering their vehicle at that address to avoid emissions. I have no clue how legal that is, or even how well it works
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

When i lived in Va and got inspected they didn't give a damn about a EGR valve.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:37 PM

Jolly roger where at in va? From my understanding its only in northern va that does the emissions bit. Here we just have visual inspection for a cat.
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:40 PM

Move to a smaller town where the libs dont have control of your ride?

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:54 PM

it's simple to fix..











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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:58 PM

View PostFijiPhil, on 11 September 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Jolly roger where at in va? From my understanding its only in northern va that does the emissions bit. Here we just have visual inspection for a cat.

I lived in Virginia Beach and Norfolk.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:58 PM

I'd smack some of teh stuff back on so it pass's the visuals..

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:10 PM

Can you register it as a classic/antique and bypass the inspections?

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:23 PM

Print out a sticker online and get some clear tape.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:34 PM

The bit about a PO box might work... I know it does here in CO, its how I plan on getting around emissions.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:52 PM

How about just putting all the emissions stuff back on? Charcoal canister is no big deal, egr and hoses.  I realize people remove them to declutter the engine bay, but the canister is really tucked in, I don't see how that's a big deal.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 11:20 PM

Pretty sure if you are mpi running MS you can tune to pass inspection, then go back to your balls to the wall tune after inspection
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 11:53 PM

Go to a different shop, throw them some cash.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:08 AM

I 2nd that live2quest :) .do the po box thing, and try to get it registered as a classic/antique.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 05:32 AM

Pretty sure it's like Maryland... "A SCAM!" It never really has to pass emissions, you just have to prove???, that you have spent $500 in an effort to get it to pass, then it is waived. However, in Maryland: if a car is 20 years old or older, it does NOT have to do emissions, it's waived! Check into it, as they continued to send me the emissions slip, even after the car reached the 20 year mark. I just went in, explaind the law, & they never bothered me again?    GL ;)

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 08:59 AM

You cannot get around it or fool it or pay someone, the computer tells DMV your car fails before the tech even tells you.   You MUST either reinstall the egr or re-register the car about 30 minutes to the west of you where emissions is not an issue.

Obviously you can't even renew your tags until this is corrected.

I can help you if you need a few pieces like a thermovalve.  Don't have any spare canisters.  Not sure if you need anything more than the working egr really.
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Posted 12 September 2013 - 09:25 AM

If it's just a quick test you don't need the thermovalve.  It's only function is to prevent EGR and evap canister from working when the engine is cold.  Why not put the EGR back on?  Taking it off does nothing to add performance.  It's only on during cruising to lower combustion temps.
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Posted 12 September 2013 - 10:01 AM

View Postucw458, on 12 September 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

If it's just a quick test you don't need the thermovalve.  It's only function is to prevent EGR and evap canister from working when the engine is cold.  Why not put the EGR back on?  Taking it off does nothing to add performance.  It's only on during cruising to lower combustion temps.

Pretty much.  They sure aren't testing it cold.  The only concern from there would be visual - if the guys even know what they're looking at on this old beast.  The test is pretty thorough as they go... egr, gas cap, limits on 3 different rpm ranges, like that.
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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:29 AM

Thanks for all the help.
I just got a EGR and will bolt it on, the funny thing
is that i have no EGR on the car and the manifold
holes for EGR are actually welded shut. so if the
EGR was on or off does not matter it still will not
function.
I will look in to classic and or antique plates.
PO Box is another thought for sure.
Thanks Again for the help.

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