Funky Phil Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) This is all I could dig up for WHP output from a stock block. Curious if anyone knows of any others...... Artinist / 70K mi short block / 60-1@23psi 91oct / 320wtq 348whpNotstock88 / 135K mi short block / 5857 @ 21psi / 355wtq 314whp Edited October 7, 2011 by phinko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Chrisvipers 337 HP TBI car was on a stock short block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TainterRacing Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Nitro Nick ran 12.4 with a 50 shot I know he sprayed up to a 100 shot on the street was ezly a 11's car. New hd valve springs and a jet vavle elim kit and new head gasket. Edited October 6, 2011 by TainterRacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarisman14 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I'll give it a shot once I get a good tune on there, completely stock with a lot of miles...Worst case scenario something pops and you replace it with a new one. Not like the blocks are hard to get a hold of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonboyb Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Back in 2007 or so Pagemo and I tried to find the limits on my 105k engine stock down to the HG, cam, stock headbolts, and JV's. Only thing we did was confirm the head was torqued correctly. I mean we did everything possible to pop the stock engine short of spray. MPI, MSII, EDIS, 3" exhaust, big Spearco IC, and a Super16g upwards of 28 psi if not even higher Might have been an 18g at the time because we were playing with the Mitsu turbos alot during this time too. Spent ALOT of time on the dyno back then so I'll have to dig a little and try to find the sheet but I want to say it was right at 350/350 (348hp/351tq is stuck in my head) running Q-16. I'm sure we had the ignition advanced pretty big too. Most of my sheets were stored on my computer from that time since I had Dynojet Runviewer and that computer has long since died so not certain I'll be able to produce anything short of assuring everyone the stock block is suprisingly strong if tuned well. Hopefully Pagemo or Bad2Rass can chime in as they would have probably been on-site during that dyno. For the record I never blew it and the stock block is still running strong at around 110k now (knock wood). I did take out the HG eventually when my EDIS coil took a dump and the car started cutting out at high rpm. This engine is headed into my dad's car (NOTPRPL) with the 2JZ going into my gold car. Edited October 6, 2011 by jonboyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonboyb Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 From looking at your SQ Top 20 looks like there are several way up there (with stock pistons anyways). Yoko is over 400??? http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8890 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeLobster Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 In the spring time when mine gets dyno tuned, Ill update you guys. my winter build is all going onto my 93k mile stock lower block. ported NJV SS OS valve head, ported, ported manifolds, hybrid turbo, MSD, MAF-T, Meth injection, all the good stuff. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Why not E85 and no meth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dred_85.5_TSI Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 He daily drives the car and E85 isn't that easy to find. plus the need for bigger injectors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStock88 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Does anybody have any dyno graphs showing what they put down on the stock block? I would like to see a compiled list of dyno sheets for people with stock block so we can get to the bottom of phil's question... That and this way I can see what #'s I need to beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I mean untouched, not a rebuilt stocker.Mingo/chrisviper/Yoko fall into a rebuilt stock area. But yeah, just curious who Eric will need to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Back in 2007 or so Pagemo and I tried to find the limits on my 105k engine stock down to the HG, cam, stock headbolts, and JV's. Only thing we did was confirm the head was torqued correctly. I mean we did everything possible to pop the stock engine short of spray. MPI, MSII, EDIS, 3" exhaust, big Spearco IC, and a Super16g upwards of 28 psi if not even higher Might have been an 18g at the time because we were playing with the Mitsu turbos alot during this time too. Spent ALOT of time on the dyno back then so I'll have to dig a little and try to find the sheet but I want to say it was right at 350/350 (348hp/351tq is stuck in my head) running Q-16. I'm sure we had the ignition advanced pretty big too. Most of my sheets were stored on my computer from that time since I had Dynojet Runviewer and that computer has long since died so not certain I'll be able to produce anything short of assuring everyone the stock block is suprisingly strong if tuned well. Hopefully Pagemo or Bad2Rass can chime in as they would have probably been on-site during that dyno. For the record I never blew it and the stock block is still running strong at around 110k now (knock wood). I did take out the HG eventually when my EDIS coil took a dump and the car started cutting out at high rpm. This engine is headed into my dad's car (NOTPRPL) with the 2JZ going into my gold car. That would be cool to see! Q16?? Really?? But yes, I agree on the strength of these blocks. Theyve gonna down the track with really quick times so they have to be able to handle some pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarquestRescue Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Pretty sure Franco is a untouched bottom end. It also broke soon after and is on jack stands now. Maybe aim higher and try to knock off some of the tbi guys first, before you pick on the slower mpi guys. http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=119007&st=0&p=1156310&&do=findComment&comment=1156310 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_S Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I thought 4cylfury's block was stock, not oringed. He has to be up there. L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TainterRacing Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Here is not a full run was to scared to do that........ This is on a 12A stock short block 90K or so on it, http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/uploads/gallery/album_603/gallery_2611_603_6337.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I mean untouched, not a rebuilt stocker.Mingo/chrisviper/Yoko fall into a rebuilt stock area. But yeah, just curious who Eric will need to beat. Virgin or rebuilt stock are the same thing. They both have the same internals. I see no reason to seperate those 2 catagories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 He separated them because supra guys do, and deep within his heart, phinko is a supra fan boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 He separated them because supra guys do, and deep within his heart, phinko is a supra fan boy. I knew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TainterRacing Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) You can rebuild better then oem with oem parts (Blue Printing the motor) Bearings might not be the same as well. Polishing parts and so on as well. Arp bolts and studs..... Edited October 7, 2011 by TainterRacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStock88 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 <subscribed> I was thinking the bottom end components has never been "touched" or rebuilt. Mine still has the original block,crank,bearings,rods,pistons,oil pump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 You can rebuild better then oem with oem parts (Blue Printing the motor) Bearings might not be the same as well. Polishing parts and so on as well. Arp bolts and studs..... Exactamundo! Otherwise my block is also a rebuilt stocker. And everyone else not using aftermarket rods. He separated them because supra guys do, and deep within his heart, phinko is a supra fan boy. I've been had! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarisman14 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Mine has a TEP cam, otherwise the engine is all stock IE haven't touched anything underneath the camshaft. In the spring when it's running well enough to dyno I'll make it a point to get it posted up here. It'll at least be north of 300whp/tq I guarantee that, and hopefully 350whp and 400wtq or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted October 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Mine has a TEP cam, otherwise the engine is all stock IE haven't touched anything underneath the camshaft. In the spring when it's running well enough to dyno I'll make it a point to get it posted up here. It'll at least be north of 300whp/tq I guarantee that, and hopefully 350whp and 400wtq or so. Goodluck man! Glad to hear its running!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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