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Posted 14 March 2018 - 05:30 AM

I applaud this guy for his efforts.

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 01:07 PM

Glad I live in TN. It was just recently that I looked up the knife laws here and to my surprise the state had reformed the laws.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 11:02 AM

Pocketknives?   When I hear 'worthy cause', I think of raising money/attention for a cure for leukemia or juvenile diabetes, dealing with the drug epidemic in this country, providing better support for mental illness or substance abuse, etc.  

When it comes to pocketknives, I only own a single one which lives in my fishing tackle box.  It happens to have a lock both in the closed an open position, which doesn't bother me in the least.   I have no intention of ever walking around with a stiletto in my pocket and have little care about loss of 'my right' to do so.  I understand that this is my own personal opinion based on how I live my own life.  Removing this type of thing from my possession would have zero impact on me but it may have a huge impact on another.  I relate it a law that wouldn't allow for a modified automobile (such as what exists in South Korea).  I'd be fighting that one for sure for it greatly impacts my personal hobby...but in the end, its just a darn hobby.  There are worse things in life to endure...for instance, my father battling prostate cancer after surviving lung cancer 7 years back.  But even then I can come to terms with that because he smoked for 40 years...to think of all the 2nd hand I inhaled though.  

On a similar note, I found out that a boy whom occasionally visited my home for a homeschool 'playgroup' had a pocketknife in his possession.  When we told the mother that she couldn't allow her son (whom is 5 yrs old BTW!) to bring this into our home, she flipped a lid.  Come to find out that the mother had a concealed weapon permit and was carrying at every playgroup.   Putting the drama to a side, this kid, nor his mother, won't be in our home again nor be associated with my kids anytime in the foreseeable future.  I'd have a lot more compassion about 2nd amendment rights if I didn't have to deal with things such as this.  "Well it is my right to carry, so I will do so" with zero regard to a another's simple request of "please just refrain from doing so in my residence or around my children".  I'm not sure why that is so much to ask.  It is simple common courtesy and respect for an acquaintance.  

Sorry to be so negative on this subject but reading/watching/experiencing these types of things just makes me roll my eyes.  Out of all the things to fight for..

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 01:57 PM

View Postkev, on 15 March 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

Pocketknives?   When I hear 'worthy cause', I think of raising money/attention for a cure for leukemia or juvenile diabetes, dealing with the drug epidemic in this country, providing better support for mental illness or substance abuse, etc.  

When it comes to pocketknives, I only own a single one which lives in my fishing tackle box.  It happens to have a lock both in the closed an open position, which doesn't bother me in the least.   I have no intention of ever walking around with a stiletto in my pocket and have little care about loss of 'my right' to do so.  I understand that this is my own personal opinion based on how I live my own life.  Removing this type of thing from my possession would have zero impact on me but it may have a huge impact on another.  I relate it a law that wouldn't allow for a modified automobile (such as what exists in South Korea).  I'd be fighting that one for sure for it greatly impacts my personal hobby...but in the end, its just a darn hobby.  There are worse things in life to endure...for instance, my father battling prostate cancer after surviving lung cancer 7 years back.  But even then I can come to terms with that because he smoked for 40 years...to think of all the 2nd hand I inhaled though.  

On a similar note, I found out that a boy whom occasionally visited my home for a homeschool 'playgroup' had a pocketknife in his possession.  When we told the mother that she couldn't allow her son (whom is 5 yrs old BTW!) to bring this into our home, she flipped a lid.  Come to find out that the mother had a concealed weapon permit and was carrying at every playgroup.   Putting the drama to a side, this kid, nor his mother, won't be in our home again nor be associated with my kids anytime in the foreseeable future.  I'd have a lot more compassion about 2nd amendment rights if I didn't have to deal with things such as this.  "Well it is my right to carry, so I will do so" with zero regard to a another's simple request of "please just refrain from doing so in my residence or around my children".  I'm not sure why that is so much to ask.  It is simple common courtesy and respect for an acquaintance.  

Sorry to be so negative on this subject but reading/watching/experiencing these types of things just makes me roll my eyes.  Out of all the things to fight for..

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 07:36 AM

Live and let live. If it doesnt infringe on me, no problem. Kev, you have every right to ask that person to leave their weapons in the car, after you found out abput them. However, if you weren't clear about your home being a "weapons free" area, then she has every right to carry there. I don't agree with a 5 yr old having a pocket knife. But his mother has every right to carry anywhere she chooses unless it is clearly posted as a weapons free place.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 11:10 AM

View Postkev, on 15 March 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

Pocketknives?   When I hear 'worthy cause', I think of raising money/attention for a cure for leukemia or juvenile diabetes, dealing with the drug epidemic in this country, providing better support for mental illness or substance abuse, etc.  



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Posted 16 March 2018 - 02:15 PM

I do appreciate the post. Not to compare saving the world to working on knife law, it's apples and oranges and more than enough people around to do both. I carried a knife for many years for defense living in shady areas, and trained in Filipino knife and stick systems prior to carrying it. My go-to is still a full size Rex Applegate combat folder that locks open so securely it's almost a fixed blade. Snaps open easily and solidly. To each, his own.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 02:50 PM

Eskrima and kalikali sure is fun ay. I prefer Krav ;)
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 11:24 AM

Don't bring a knife to a gun fight is all I got to say.

Kev.. Sorry to hear your Dad is fighting cancer yet again. Sucks for people that are say 40 plus years old or more. Shelby smoked rip my friend. Smoking used to be allowed in movie theaters and airplanes ect. It was a way of life. My favorite uncle died to cancer not to long ago. God bless them all .

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 02:22 AM

I carry a pocket knife every day. It is such a handy tool I feel lost when it is not on me.  
When I carry a pistol you would not even know it so it would have no effect on you anyhow.
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Posted 04 April 2018 - 08:18 AM

View PostGINASQ, on 16 March 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

Eskrima and kalikali sure is fun ay. I prefer Krav ;)

Nice! I have a friend that does Krav Maga. I like the Filipino approach of using the same movements for armed and unarmed combat, but Krav has that intensity. My Escrima was mixed with other stuff so not sure how pure it was, Jeet Kune Do was like that.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:36 AM

View PostG54Bstore, on 17 March 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Kev.. Sorry to hear your Dad is fighting cancer yet again. Sucks for people that are say 40 plus years old or more. Shelby smoked rip my friend. Smoking used to be allowed in movie theaters and airplanes ect. It was a way of life. My favorite uncle died to cancer not to long ago. God bless them all .

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 05:27 AM

Hello everyone, it's been quite a while since I've had the time to get back on here and do a little reading and catch up with some friends. I'm currently working on the overnight shift and it's just different. During the week I can't tell if I'm half awake or half asleep and regularly lose track of time and even what day it is. Lol...

As far as this video goes I think what we need to think about here is our rights and liberties we enjoy as Americans and not just about how these laws and bans affect us but how they affect the rest of the population because these knife laws probably don't affect a whole lot of the population but nonetheless it's a right we have as Americans to carry a pocket knife and states like New York literally make it a life long mission to keep altering or taking away these rights and liberties a little at a time. Something to also think about is that it's like opening a door just a crack then once it's opened it can be pushed open farther and farther until eventually all knives could quite possibly be banned from personal carry. Whenever issues like this come up we need to look at exactly why the knife is being banned not just look at the knife because it looks more dangerous than say a butter knife. The vast majority of American's who these new knife laws will be affecting will never ever ever commit a crime or assault anyone with their pocket knife. I mean can't you assault someone with a butter knife? Knife sharpeners are readily available so will we ban those in the near future because criminals are now sharpening their butter knives?

This really brings to mind the argument about guns also because in reality guns don't do anything but sit there until someone picks it up and does something with it. I feel the same goes for a knife, scissors, pipes, hammers, screwdrivers, chain saws etc.. These are all tools and they have a purpose and whether that purpose is to hit a nail or hit someone over the head is exclusively the choice of the user. My argument is if we start banning different types of knives and specific types of guns then were does it end? In my humble view it's not the object that is causing the carnage it's the individual using the item who is causing the carnage. I have never yet heard of a single case where a knife, gun, hammer, car or rock for that matter has ever just jumped to life and killed anyone. Ok now I know the thinking of this group very well and I understand that there are those VERY RARE instances where a car pops out of gear, rolls down a hill and mows over a crowd of people. I understand its possible for a firearm to just go off unexpectedly or an instance where a knife accidentally opens and someone gets stabbed BUT these are NOT acts of violence. They are simply accidents that can and do and as log as there are people on this earth they will happen.

Now on the other hand what these politicians are trying to do is solve a problem by creating another bigger and worse problem. Across the board banning of anything in my view is just something the powers to be will do because 1. they really don't understand the problem, 2. they choose to ignore the problem and just throw a solution at it or 3. they are politically motivated to act on a problem where they have no idea how to solve it correctly but do it anyway just to show THEY did SOMETHING. I sort of lean toward #3 where these politicians with their elementary school mentality like to punish the majority for the acts of the few rather than punishing the few very very harshly for their acts. There are millions and millions of people who have carried a pocket knife their whole lives including my grandfathers, my father and even myself on occasion (I don't carry one all the time because I will only end up losing it) and we never ever had the notion to harm anyone with it. The same goes for guns, I own quite a few handguns, rifles, shotguns a cross bow and most have been in the family for generations. Guess what, not a single one of those weapons has EVER jumped up and shot anyone.

Here is my thinking process, if you want to own a knife, gun, hand tool, power tool, car, pipe wrench, sling shot or whatever please take the responsibility to know how to use it properly and store it SAFELY and SECURELY. If you want to own a gun then go take some gun safety classes, get the proper trigger locks, rifle bolt locks, for God sakes get a gun safe and don't let your kids know the combination!!! Store your bullets safely out of the guns that way if it accidentally drops it doesn't go off and accidentally shoot and kill someone. Take the time to teach your older kids the proper ways to handle a knife or gun or hammer or power tool and make sure they are responsible for it. The key word I'm using here is RESPONSIBILITY and also the lack of it. Anyone you hear beating their chest and wailing out that SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!! Well we are all a someone right?? So who is this mysterious someone that everyone is always talking about that needs to do something?? And why aren't they all saying WE NEED to take personal responsibility for our actions and hold others accountable for theirs? You see every time the people start with all that SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!! our enormous big government is quite happy to step in with all their unlimited power and start taking away more of our liberty and rights with the hope that it will work... The sad fact is that banning things rarely ever does work and it generally just creates another bigger problem and makes the situation worse. When the lawyer in the video says 86% of people who were stopped and frisked are black and latino it makes me think how many other Americans are stopped and frisked? Or are the majority of people being stopped and frisked blacks and latnos? I'm absolutely not trying to be racist I'm just stating that maybe the problem is with the 86% of the people who are stopped, frisked and found to have this “illegal” type of knife. If it were me that might be something to look into instead of banning that type of knife.

The bottom line to all this infringement on our rights and liberties is this, if we don’t know how or don’t want to be responsible for ourselves and our actions then our all powerful government will be happy to step in and attempt to be responsible for us. They sure don't have the time to sit down and educate 326 million people on the proper ways to handle your AK47 or your home depot flip out razor knife or how to safely swing a hammer so the next best thing is to just ban it so the knife disappears from the market but does that ever really disappear? When one thing disappears another just pops up in its place with a slightly new mechanism so it won't flip out as easily. If we keep letting our government ban whatever it is that the minority can’t be responsible with where does it end? Criminals will be here until the end of days and some are pretty smart, take their gun they will use a knife. Take their knife they will use a hammer. Take their hammer they will use a brick... or whatever they can get their hands on. If they can't get anything in their hands to commit these acts of violence what will we ban next?? Our Hands? This is the insanity of this argument and the lack of intelligence and competence we have today in our government.

Here’s a final thought, if ALL the guns and knives were gathered up from every single person in this country with the exception of the military and destroyed what do you think would be next? Just because you ban conventional weapons intelligent criminals will find a non conventional weapon to fit the task. My wife is a pretty good shot with my Barnett cross bow... should we ban them next? I have a wrist rocket from when I was a kid... are they next? We can just keep going back to the stone ages so what's next a stick that looks like a spear? A rock that has a sharp edge that can cut someone? This is the slippery slope these fool politicians love to play on with no clue what they are doing or what the outcome will be. They hear the pounding of chests and all the loud voices so THEY feel SOMEONE just needs to so SOMETHING and they are ready and very willing to act as foolishly and irresponsibly as the people who or carrying the gun or knife looking to do someone harm.

I personally feel that SOMEONE who needs to do SOMETHING shouldn’t be them it should be us because we are the ones who need to be responsible for ourselves.
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Posted 12 April 2018 - 05:37 AM

View Postkev, on 15 March 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

Pocketknives?   When I hear 'worthy cause', I think of raising money/attention for a cure for leukemia or juvenile diabetes, dealing with the drug epidemic in this country, providing better support for mental illness or substance abuse, etc.  

When it comes to pocketknives, I only own a single one which lives in my fishing tackle box.  It happens to have a lock both in the closed an open position, which doesn't bother me in the least.   I have no intention of ever walking around with a stiletto in my pocket and have little care about loss of 'my right' to do so.  I understand that this is my own personal opinion based on how I live my own life.  Removing this type of thing from my possession would have zero impact on me but it may have a huge impact on another.  I relate it a law that wouldn't allow for a modified automobile (such as what exists in South Korea).  I'd be fighting that one for sure for it greatly impacts my personal hobby...but in the end, its just a darn hobby.  There are worse things in life to endure...for instance, my father battling prostate cancer after surviving lung cancer 7 years back.  But even then I can come to terms with that because he smoked for 40 years...to think of all the 2nd hand I inhaled though.  

On a similar note, I found out that a boy whom occasionally visited my home for a homeschool 'playgroup' had a pocketknife in his possession.  When we told the mother that she couldn't allow her son (whom is 5 yrs old BTW!) to bring this into our home, she flipped a lid.  Come to find out that the mother had a concealed weapon permit and was carrying at every playgroup.   Putting the drama to a side, this kid, nor his mother, won't be in our home again nor be associated with my kids anytime in the foreseeable future.  I'd have a lot more compassion about 2nd amendment rights if I didn't have to deal with things such as this.  "Well it is my right to carry, so I will do so" with zero regard to a another's simple request of "please just refrain from doing so in my residence or around my children".  I'm not sure why that is so much to ask.  It is simple common courtesy and respect for an acquaintance.  

Sorry to be so negative on this subject but reading/watching/experiencing these types of things just makes me roll my eyes.  Out of all the things to fight for..


Hello Kev, I completely understand your points and your personal preferences which is your right to do so but when you mention about the car and if that modification is banned then it's just a hobby. That right there is the problem because it's YOUR hobby and that is also your right to have that hobby but why are we always way too willing to give up this or that and you know what? Once it's gone it NEVER comes back and it always spreads to other things. Give an inch they take 10 miles in my experience.

Also can you elaborate on your comment " reading/watching/experiencing these types of things just makes me roll my eyes. Out of all the things to fight for.. "  Unless I misunderstood you it's not that people are really just fighting against this ban they are fighting against everything that will come after after it and because of it.
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Posted 12 April 2018 - 12:56 PM

It really comes down to percentages. In our country where majority vote is supposed to rule, why should we sacrifice rights because .00000001 percent of the population experiences hardships because of it? We don't ban automobiles because people get in car accidents. We give licenses to people to drive that lack common sense when it comes to operating a vehicle in the first place. So by banning knives/guns or requiring mental health or harder background checks will only hurt law abiding people. I'm not saying that the .000001 percent of people killed in mass shootings or stabbings are not worth the attention or ackowledgement that there is an issue, I'm saying we should not change our laws based on that fact.

From 9/11 to now people must have forgotten how easy it was to take a plane flight for example. Now you are damn near strip searched, back ground, checked, harassed, and the quality of plane flights just suck horribly. We gave up an inch of our freedom then because the mass media made it out to be worse than it was. Not saying 9/11 wasn't bad because it was, but we still don't have all the facts and DHS/TSA have severely over stepped their bounds in the name of safety.

I think we need to go back to state by state regulation and create a smaller federal government. If people want tough gun laws like Chicago, then let them move to Illinois, if they want relaxed gun laws then move to South Carolina. Over time people will move to where they have similar views.




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