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#1 KO

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 06:46 PM

Turbo Timer Harness Complete Information


Most turbo timers have a harness you can use to plug stright in to the factory wiring, no cutting or splicing anything. Un plug the connector and plug teh two ends where they go, some timers i.e. HKS Type 1, And the newer Greddy's I belive have mroe then this that usualy run to the coil because they use a tach signal to allocate how much time is required.

I've heard teh question asked as to what happens really.  I can only vouch for the "old school" HKS timer, And I think Chip was runnign a Greddy,  The leave teh car COMPLETELY running, yet allow you to lock the doors and walk away.  As with my timer: My factory alarm will not arm itself with the car running, But I don't know how many of you pay attention to teh factory alarm, it only works if they open teh hood, a door or the trunk...

I will post as I source the information for further installs, such has the hard wire methods for each timer asked.  I know there are a few.  If you read this and would liek to put your info here as to how you did it I think we might all appreciate it.

In the end, You cross reference For car type adn what do you get... WA LA... The timer harness...

Below Is a list of timer harnesses.

Again, If you need any help with anythign dealign with this just let me know.  I ain't that hard to get ahold of.

HKS
MT-1 is the correct harness for the StarQuest.

Which is ALSO the harness for
MITSUBISHI 3000GT 1990-1999 Turbo

MITSUBISHI Eclipse GST, GSX 1989-1994 Turbo
MITSUBISHI Galant VR-4 1990-1993 Turbo
MITSUBISHI Mirage 1985-1988 Turbo
PLYMOUTH Laser RS 1989-1993 Turbo
DODGE Colt 1985-1988 Turbo
DODGE Stealth R/T Turbo 1990-1996 Turbo
EAGLE Talon TSI, TSI AWD 1989-1994 Turbo

GREDDY
TT 14-42  is the PN


APEX auto timer
416-M001 Is teh PN..

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Posted 21 June 2004 - 06:37 AM

i would like to know about hard wiring my ApexI auto timer.
thanks

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 12:21 PM

anyone?

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Posted 06 August 2004 - 09:46 PM

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i would like to know about hard wiring my ApexI auto timer.
thanks


I am wondering the same thing....
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Posted 08 August 2004 - 11:59 PM

PM me for which wires on the ign. switch to tap if you want to hard wire.

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 07:19 PM

I know the wires on the on the car for the ignition.  I need to know what wires on the turbo timer go where.
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Posted 06 October 2004 - 02:05 PM

i would like to know as well
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Posted 12 October 2004 - 06:08 PM

I have the same problem :'(.  Someone has to have installed this thing before.  I just wish that APEXi would have made a little better instructions >:(.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:06 PM

Well I got a BLitz harness and Autobacs said it would work.  But, I'm having problems finding where the harness goes.
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 06:59 PM

Re- Hash I had to update an older post to correct the links that had changed and host a jpg that didn't exist.

QUOTE (Metric-man)
Hmmm..

well If some one was to go to the HKS website and search for turbo timer (harness) and found the same part number for their car matched another car that person would be safe to assume if they looked on the Greddy website and found the car listed that matched the car that used the same part number for the turbo timer(harness) on the HKS website that they would have found the correct part


but I haven't met anyone that has done this....

http://www.greddy.com/tech/FATURBO_TIMER.pdf
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http://www.greddy.com/prod_turbo_tiimer_harness.htm

http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=837&rsku=0

http://www.hksusa.com/faq/?ID=1647



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Posted 14 October 2004 - 08:00 PM

(Right click save as...Adobe Acrobat document)
http://www.apexi-usa.com/productdocumentat...nstructions.pdf

(Asian font pack for Adobe Acrobat  reader To read all symbols (font) in APEXi manual)
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrasianfontpack.html

All the timers have basic jumper plugs one manufacter doesn't change much from the next (APEXi, HKS, Greddy) in the installation because they are vehicle specific.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (starion_nebula)
i would like to know about hard wiring my ApexI auto timer.
thanks

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QUOTE (Forcfed4)
This should probably be added to the FAQ since I couldn't seem to find any instructions on it:  ???

1.  Remove the 2 screws holding the hood latch in place and remove hood latch.  Pop off the A/Int Wip Cancel button and remove silver ring (big nut basically).  Pop cover from opposite side and remove screws from both.  Remove fuse panel cover.  Remove 5 screws from bottom of steering column plate.  Remove plate.

2.  You should see an abundance of connectors including a big blue one.  The connector you are looking for is black and has 6 connections on it (only 5 wires).  The wires are about 10g wire and are as follows:

White with a Black stripe (WB)
Black with a Yellow stripe (BY)
Black with a White stripe (BW)
Blue with a White stripe (LW)
Blue with a Black stripe (LB)
sixth slot is empty

3.  Once you have found the connectors, you will need to connect:

Timer                    Harness

12V (Red)             WB
ACC (Blue)            LW
ON (Green)           BW
Ground (Black)       Good ground source

The color listings (Red, Blue, Green) are going to depend on the individual turbo timer but this is what the colors were on my Greddy unit.

4.  Reassemble in reverse  wink.gif

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 11:58 PM

Thanx for sheading some light metric-man.  I have a harness but I cannot find where the hell it goes.  I know it goes somewhere under the dash around the steering column.  Now, with your info, I might just hard wire it.
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Posted 26 October 2004 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (Kr0nus)
Thanx for sheading some light metric-man.  I have a harness but I cannot find where the hell it goes.  I know it goes somewhere under the dash around the steering column.  Now, with your info, I might just hard wire it.


If you already have the harness to connect (jump into) once you get this far (under the steering column) an find the plug (connector) you have to use. Your home free.
Except for grounding or connecting the parking brake (ignition cancel) wire.
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You should see an abundance of connectors including a big blue one.  The connector you are looking for is black and has 6 connections on it (only 5 wires).  The wires are about 10g wire and are as follows:

White with a Black stripe (WB)
Black with a Yellow stripe (BY)
Black with a White stripe (BW)
Blue with a White stripe (LW)
Blue with a Black stripe (LB)
sixth slot is empty

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 10:17 PM

Ok the blitz harness worked like charm.  I'll get the part number tomorrow, it's from Japan so you guys might have a hard time finding it.
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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:51 AM

The harness I used was the Blitz MI-02.  It's for the 1gen Eclipse, 3kGT among others.  This is the harness you will need if you have a Apex-i auto timer.
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Posted 16 November 2004 - 06:12 AM

i used the same blitz.. i have a blitz dual turbo timer.. its the one that reads boost and is a turbo timer.. i cant get it to stay on when i turn off my car tho.. krOnus emplied that it wasnt because of the e-brake handle wire not being connected.. any suggestions??? please??  ???
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Posted 15 December 2004 - 02:20 PM

I just got a Moto Sport Type R timer. The directions say how to hook it up if you don't have a harness. I hooked it up but oviously didn't use the right wires. Everything seems to work except when it is timing out, the fans don't work. The engine gets hot very quick. This is in an 87 TSI with an 88 ECU. However, my manual is an 86 and the wiring colors are a little different. I have an 88 manual I copied off the internet but the electrical section cut off the last inch or so  and I'm missing information. It has 5 wires. Red, yellow, blue which go into a 3 wire connector. The brown goes to the emergency brake and the black is ground. I hooked them up to the Black, black/ w White and the blue. Does anybody have a clue as to what I might have done wrong?

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