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#21 25gconquest

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 04:13 PM

Attached File  car21.jpg   36K   41 downloadsI had did a front brake kit using all willwood parts with the sl6 caliper and one of there off the shelf hat and had made custom brackets. If anyone is interested in talking the brackets and have them duplicated for others here you are welcome. My car is down now for a restoration, I dont have anyone that can do it. here is a picture of the setup I am using 18inch wheels





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Posted 21 August 2011 - 10:45 PM

TopDawg_43 turned me onto this. Using the 05-10 Mustand caliper and bracket. Below is a pic of a GT and a standard caliper. GT on top. Either will work. There is no difference in calipers. The GT bracket has a different location for mounting. That's it. So you don't have to pay for the GT parts unless you want to. The standard bracket i drilled the mounting hole a little off. I got a new bracket. Which was the GT bracket and I didn't notice til I got home. I took some metal rod and threaded it. Used red loctite and then ground off the end. Then drilled my new hole. I didn't want to plug it again and redrill. I didn't feel safe doing it again.
You will need to have a new brake line made. I'm hoping mine will be ready in a couple days.

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:05 PM

With all the help i gave you on wheels josh we need to have a talk about this brake setup haha! Looks good
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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:44 PM

View Post25gconquest, on 18 August 2011 - 04:13 PM, said:

Attachment car21.jpgI had did a front brake kit using all willwood parts with the sl6 caliper and one of there off the shelf hat and had made custom brackets. If anyone is interested in talking the brackets and have them duplicated for others here you are welcome. My car is down now for a restoration, I dont have anyone that can do it. here is a picture of the setup I am using 18inch wheels

can you just give me the part number for the aluminum hat you used? What car was it originally for?
proof it did run at one point...
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:33 AM

View PostJohnnyWadd, on 13 August 2011 - 03:03 AM, said:

me wanna see

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:36 AM

View PostRF600, on 21 August 2011 - 10:45 PM, said:

Thanks TopDawg_43 for the info.



No problem!  Anything I can do to help!
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:52 AM

I'm stating this out of unbelief, skepticism, whatever.  So, for the price of a bracket, we could simply upgrade to late model mustang calipers?  Brembo, anyone?
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 12:16 PM

Want moar pics and info!! Really interested in the Mustang brake upgrade.
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 05:13 PM

View PostBOOSTED88tsi, on 21 August 2011 - 11:05 PM, said:

With all the help i gave you on wheels josh we need to have a talk about this brake setup haha! Looks good

I'm trying to get this stuff done so I can hopefully go to Mesquite this year. The way things are going I won't have the money.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 06:51 AM

I have been corrected.  Those are not 06 calipers.  They are 04 Mustang calipers, that I used.
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 08:19 AM

Awesome.  How is the pedal feel??  I'm guessing stock master cylinder...??

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:14 AM

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Awesome.  How is the pedal feel??  I'm guessing stock master cylinder...??

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I can't remember any change in peddle feel.  Then again, I did this swap 5 years ago.  For now, the pedal does not set off any alarms.  Yes, stock master cylinder.
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Posted 28 August 2011 - 04:35 PM

Well using the 05-10 calipers is not gonna work for me. With the caliper bracket mounted and the rotor seated it hits the inside of the bracket. It hits enough that the rotor won't move. So I am not sure how long it will take to work it out. Possibly a different rotor with a shorter hat? That would bring the rotor away from the bracket enough to mount up properly. I would have to measure for the right height of the hat, but it would be around 1/8" to 1/4" shorter.

The 99-04 calipers like TopDawg is using has twin 45mm pistons. The 05-10 calipers have twin 41.5mm pistons.
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Posted 28 August 2011 - 10:37 PM

I took some measurements. For the 05-10 caliper to mount the hat on the rotor needs to be ~6mm shorter. That should put the rotor in the middle of the bracket.
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 10:26 PM

The hat was from Willwood I dont remember the part number because I did these back it 1998, I had to make an hub centric ring so the hat would be centered, the rear hat I had them custom made to fit. I am pulling the car down now I will see if there is a part number on the fron hat. DL1700764 other # is ll0764. I also had to make custom brake lines .hope this help

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 11:46 PM

some general info, if you go from a one pot(piston) caliper to a four pot(piston) caliper like the wilwood, the 4 pistons have more volume in some instances. this will cause more petal travel. if so, using a bigger diameter piston master cylinder will move more fluid with less travel of the petal. mostly a "feel" thing on power brakes.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:22 AM

View PostC300, on 21 September 2011 - 11:46 PM, said:

some general info, if you go from a one pot(piston) caliper to a four pot(piston) caliper like the wilwood, the 4 pistons have more volume in some instances. this will cause more petal travel. if so, using a bigger diameter piston master cylinder will move more fluid with less travel of the petal. mostly a "feel" thing on power brakes.


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:55 AM

So can someone confirm that what we need for this to work is the following:
1. use standard 99-04 Mustang and NOT GT
2. 99-04 Mustang calipers ( front & rear ? )
3. 99-04 Mustang brackets ( front & rear ? )
4. custom brake lines
5. does something need to be done to the brackets ?
6. stock starion rotors ?

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 07:24 PM

Yeah, I would like to know what's needed and what needs done, I was going to try all this for myself but seems you have already done it and works good for you. Props for the work man.
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