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#41 dem0ntsi

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 11:11 AM

View PostTsTKl, on 16 September 2010 - 11:42 PM, said:

i googled and found them at a couple places I've never heard of for 975ish, which is the price d2's go for for most other cars they make coilovers for so that sounds about right.

seriously people who gives a s*** how low the can go, all that matters is if they can handle well. I'm sure they can go lower than you would want to drive the car with,.. some people these days...

anyone autocrossed these yet or anything? I'm interested in how the handling is improved on flat pavement.

does this work with both shp and non shp spindles? I have no idea if they are the same outer diameter or not, wanted to make sure before I bought a set.

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 09:44 PM

View PostTsTKl, on 16 September 2010 - 11:42 PM, said:

i googled and found them at a couple places I've never heard of for 975ish, which is the price d2's go for for most other cars they make coilovers for so that sounds about right.

seriously people who gives a s*** how low the can go, all that matters is if they can handle well. I'm sure they can go lower than you would want to drive the car with,.. some people these days...

anyone autocrossed these yet or anything? I'm interested in how the handling is improved on flat pavement.

does this work with both shp and non shp spindles? I have no idea if they are the same outer diameter or not, wanted to make sure before I bought a set.

I intend on autocrossing my set, but I haven't installed them yet. Been waiting on trying to procure some flat body front strut housings.
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 04:56 PM

started installing my d2s...ended using my mk1 rear camber plates...mb battle 18x9.5+15 with 55mm spacer...rolled fenders...here's a few pix
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 07:15 PM

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 02:39 AM

Looking Nice! Did you guys receive a dyno sheet for each of your struts indicating their shock and rebound rates?

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:52 PM

All I received was a generic technical manual and a pamphlet catalog. I'm a little disappointed truth be told as I get the vibe that they largely just developed a set of mounts for our cars and hadn't done any definitive testing to fine tune the valving settings. Granted, valving is usually pretty close when you go off vehicle weight. Here's to hoping the 36 adjustments offered cover a wide range. :P
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 01:08 PM

After reading various articles on performance suspensions, I think I'm a little too skeptical on these kits. Check out this Far North Racing article I stumbled upon while researching suspension replacement options for my DSM: http://farnorthracin...s_secrets6.html and this http://farnorthracin..._secrets18.html

Two quotes that deeply concern me:  

"     *  Bilstein
    * Penske
    * Koni
    * Ohlins
    * Sachs
    * Dynamic Suspension

Not on this list? Almost certainly crap."

"You must, must, must have dyno plots for your shocks - and not just 'typical' plots, but the actual performance of each of your shocks. "

I think its worth looking into. Over a G for a set of coilovers? Hard to swallow after reading this article. At least for me if I didn't know the shock and rebound characteristics.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 06:57 PM

View Post92 GSR-4, on 25 September 2010 - 01:08 PM, said:

After reading various articles on performance suspensions, I think I'm a little too skeptical on these kits. Check out this Far North Racing article I stumbled upon while researching suspension replacement options for my DSM: http://farnorthracin...s_secrets6.html and this http://farnorthracin..._secrets18.html

Two quotes that deeply concern me:  

"     *  Bilstein
    * Penske
    * Koni
    * Ohlins
    * Sachs
    * Dynamic Suspension

Not on this list? Almost certainly crap."

"You must, must, must have dyno plots for your shocks - and not just 'typical' plots, but the actual performance of each of your shocks. "

I think its worth looking into. Over a G for a set of coilovers? Hard to swallow after reading this article. At least for me if I didn't know the shock and rebound characteristics.

All the coilover companies listed above will run in the neighborhood of $3000+ so 1k for something close but not quite isn't that bad of a deal.  Unless you're planning on running balls out on a high speed track, D2's will cover most of your needs.

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 04:32 AM

Kane, I definitely agree with that, but one of the main points of the article is "matching" struts together based on their performance characteristics. One example given in the article I linked above is that he would get a bulk order of Koni struts and dyno each one and start matching them together in sets. The adjustable valves just helped him to better match them together.

So essentially, I would be looking for each strut to behave closely to the other 3 because you don't want different shock and rebound rates on each corner of the car.

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 12:01 AM

View PostMoltoMario, on 18 September 2010 - 07:15 PM, said:

Crimpin my style mang!


not to worry mario everyone knows you were the first..

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 12:06 AM

Meaning TEIN and JIC are crap!?!
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Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:18 AM

View Post92 GSR-4, on 26 September 2010 - 04:32 AM, said:

Kane, I definitely agree with that, but one of the main points of the article is "matching" struts together based on their performance characteristics. One example given in the article I linked above is that he would get a bulk order of Koni struts and dyno each one and start matching them together in sets. The adjustable valves just helped him to better match them together.

So essentially, I would be looking for each strut to behave closely to the other 3 because you don't want different shock and rebound rates on each corner of the car.


Guaranteed 99% of the people buying D2s for Starions aren't going to notice a difference if the four struts weren't matched. I'd wager to say that 50% of the people buying D2s for their Starions aren't even going to get a professional alignment.

The argument is null and void. ^_^

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I see you got that Limited Edition ish.

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 05:32 AM

I agree with Dave, and add that anyone who's serious about track racing will likey get the struts dyno'd and certainly have the car corner balanced anyways.
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Posted 27 September 2010 - 01:54 PM

I drove 125miles home after getting these installed over the weekend(Thanks Lee and Dave!) and they are awesome! Even on just the base settings and no tinkering with the dampening.  I no longer fear going over rough pavement like I did with the MK1/Cosmo set up.  Corners firm and flat, Id imagine even flatter if I get a stiffer spring rate.  Ride is stiff but not unbearable for a daily driver.  Worth every penny.  I let Dave test drive the car and I hope he gives his impression.  I took Lee(Nomad) on the maiden run and hopefully he chimes in as well.  Anyone who is on the fence about these I suggest you get a set.  They are light years over the MK1/Cosmo set up I had and it appears they can go much lower as well.

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:20 PM

damn... I need to get a set now.

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 04:47 PM

Where are you guys finding them for 900 a set?
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Posted 27 September 2010 - 07:50 PM

Hell I cant even find them on ebay.  Im struggling hook a brother up with a link or some help will ya's?
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Posted 27 September 2010 - 11:49 PM

View Postyzrider, on 27 September 2010 - 07:50 PM, said:

Hell I cant even find them on ebay.  Im struggling hook a brother up with a link or some help will ya's?


http://www.google.co...ved=0CDwQrQQwAg

I have not personally bought anything from any of these websites.

you could also call any d2 vendor and ask them for the specific part number....
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Posted 28 September 2010 - 12:49 AM

View PostDave-O, on 27 September 2010 - 02:18 AM, said:

Guaranteed 99% of the people buying D2s for Starions aren't going to notice a difference if the four struts weren't matched. I'd wager to say that 50% of the people buying D2s for their Starions aren't even going to get a professional alignment.

The argument is null and void. ^_^

Its not an argument, its a contribution. How many people track their SQ's? I'd wager quite a few. Hopefully THOSE people will read up and get smart before they blow a G or more on a set of struts that everyone else loves just because they can drop the car. Nobody really knows the actual performance of the set.

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 03:17 AM

View Post92 GSR-4, on 28 September 2010 - 12:49 AM, said:

Its not an argument, its a contribution. How many people track their SQ's? I'd wager quite a few. Hopefully THOSE people will read up and get smart before they blow a G or more on a set of struts that everyone else loves just because they can drop the car. Nobody really knows the actual performance of the set.

Wow if you think that 1k for a set of full bodied adjustable coilovers is expensive I suggest you buy a Kia with a 10 year warranty.  As far as the D2s, they are the best suspension option out there right now by far.




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