ionjon Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 i have a 4g63 how diffucult is the swap into the quest, what parts are needed and what are the steps any info will help thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travs87tsi Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 here is some good info http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studi...63Conquest.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionjon Posted November 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 the one guy selling his car said the 4g63 bolts up to the stock starion 5 speed is this true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSMracespeed Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 I don't think so. Jerry L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dizzydug Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 why would you want to keep/use the stock electronics? you are converting to a engine with a different fuel injection system. i find it hard to believe that the eclipse motor would bolt up to the stock tranny.sounds to good to be true.But if it isn't i am gonna get a motor and try it.I can get a turbo 1g motor for less than I could go to mpi with the 2.6.mine needs a rebuild soon anyway. wanting to bring the whole car up a little closer to the modern world.the stock motor is capable of a lot but it's a hard and expensive road to get there due to limited aftermarket support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4g63-510 Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I posted a 4g63 swap topic that I did in a 510 a short while ago. The stock Starion 5-speed does not bolt up. You have to use the D50 5-speed. But that creates a problem, the D50 trans uses a cable for the clutch unlike the Starions master and slave setup. On my car I used the D50 for the bellhousing only and used the rear Starion housing and gears. I cut a hole for the clutch fork and made a bracket for the slave cyl. One option you might try is to use a Ford input shaft mounted throwout bearing , They use it on Rangers. As for the mounts I used D50 mounts. I don't know how you want the engine to sit. As for me as low and as for back as possible. The 4G63 has 2 things on the back of the engine, 1. cam angle sensor, and 2. water outlet. I cut an area in the firewall to clear it all. The oil pan was another problem all together. "custom" Â But all in all it was a pretty easy. I would highly recommend the 4G63 swap in anything. Use the DSM electronics. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questless1 Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 I posted about this in the virtual garage- I was told to check in here. I was told buschur racing sells parts but their site doesnt mention it. I want to do this too- I can have a intake made and an exhaust made too- but I want to drop the motor in without cutting/fitting tranny & mounts any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbster Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Wait, why would you want to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questless1 Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Wait, why would you want to do this? cause it's fast, different, and gofast parts for a 4g63 are more readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 cause it's fast, different, and gofast parts for a 4g63 are more readily available. Â huh? Yes the engine is fast but you are comparing equals here. Slap a stock 4g63 into a quest and it will be slower than the stock g54b! The parts are more readily available but they cost about the same as our parts do. kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 I got a 4g63 and it is nice but AIN'T "all that" everyone. My stock Starion was faster than my GS-T. Parts availability would be the major advantage IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr._Pop-ups Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 huh? Â Yes the engine is fast but you are comparing equals here. Â Slap a stock 4g63 into a quest and it will be slower than the stock g54b! Â The parts are more readily available but they cost about the same as our parts do. Â kev 'Scuse me? How can you figure? With a bleeder valve (or MBC) you can pump the boost on a 14b to at least 20psi with just an upgraded fuel pump. That will give you close to 200 to the ground. Whats that gonna cost you in a Quest that weighs about the same? Ive driven a good running stock Quest and no way is it faster than my AWD when it was stock. I have a 7psi stock turbo AWD sitting in the drivway right now thatll take on even a mildly boosted Quest with no problem. And AWDs are geared lower so top end suffers against say a FWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWD4G63 Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 I agree. Conquest with 4G63 and free and cheap mods will be faster a lot faster than a non swapped conquest. I ran 110mph on my GST with free or cheap mods, I mean really cheap mods. That is enough mph with slicks to run 12s in a starquest even if it weighs 2-300 more lbs it should only drop the mph to the 108mph range or so. The fastest I have seen around here with free or cheap mods is about 100-102mph which a dsm can do like nothing. Not to mention that with a 4G63T you don't need a stand alone and custom intake to run 12s without nitrous. The stock ecu with piggy backs will be good for however fast you want to go, it has gone mid 9s in a street car and 7s in a race car. You will run 12s WAY easier and cheaper with a 4G63. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherloc123 Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 the guy alex did use a stock conquest transmission cause i was going to buy the car and he had extra conquest trannies that came with it already modded to fit the 4g63. now i wish i did buy it cause my conquest sucks and i jsut got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 So the tranny off of a 2.0l quest wont work? Isnt it the same block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremesushi Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Just wanted to give my 2 cents worth here. First of all you can have your stock 12a "honed out" like I did, buy a boost controller, upper hard- pipe kit,blow off vave, and 1g mas air mod and that will all get you EFFECTIVELY into low 13's! I havent even upgraded my fuelpump or pressureregulator, or even advanced my timing. Im running (up to) 22PSI BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest castmem Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 OK peeps. Check it..... If you guys really wanna do a 4g63 swap into the starquest and want all your questions answered be sure to check out http://userpages.umbc.edu/~mbowma1/project...4G63/index.html  This is a member from our site who has decided to do the swap and document every single detail so that everyone can see once and for all how to do the bloody swap so posts like these can be put to rest for good. Please be patient with the site i listed cause the dude is in the middle of the swap and he posts updates just as soon as he has time to update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_T Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 For your info on what fits what, The 18. 20. and 2.4 lt engnes all have the same adapter plaate on the back of the enginre thus will bolt up to any 2lt Quest trany or D 50/Mity Max 2.0 or 2.4 4 sp or 87 and newer 5sp. The blocks on all the Mitsubishi 18 20 2.4 2.6 and 3.0 are drilled and taped to be used in either FWD or RWD set ups. The problem with the 63 engine in a Quest is the head is taller witch requires modifing the mounting area to lower the engine . Now there is one exception as far as mounting a 2.0 trany to a 2.6 In the early D 50's that used a 904 auto trans they had a adapter plate that bolted on to the 2.6 engine and had the 2.0 lt bolt patteren to bolt to the trany. The thing that must be remembered inusing this adapter is it is thicker that the normal adapter thus you will need to adjust for the thicker adapter plate. As far as auto trans go it is posable to put together an auto trans to fit either the 2.0 2.4 2.6 or 3.0 engines if you want to . Are there any opther questions ? Have fun Mark_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metric-man Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I agree. Conquest with 4G63 and free and cheap mods will be faster a lot faster than a non swapped conquest. I ran 110mph on my GST with free or cheap mods, I mean really cheap mods. That is enough mph with slicks to run 12s in a starquest even if it weighs 2-300 more lbs it should only drop the mph to the 108mph range or so. The fastest I have seen around here with free or cheap mods is about 100-102mph which a dsm can do like nothing. Not to mention that with a 4G63T you don't need a stand alone and custom intake to run 12s without nitrous. The stock ecu with piggy backs will be good for however fast you want to go, it has gone mid 9s in a street car and 7s in a race car. You will run 12s WAY easier and cheaper with a 4G63. Sure go ahead swap in a 4G63 but be care full on the one you choose. Go to any DSM board and look at the record of bearing failures. I've done 113 in my stock 86 W/O intercooler Starion only mod was K&N and a Couple of extra air holes in the bottom of the can. So the ones RWD has seen must have been pretty tired. Yeah the Buscher Starquest is fast but it's torn down after every race too. After looking at the 4G63 , re-building a 6G72TT and a G54BT I appreciate the G54B allot more. Comparing the 4G63 to the G54B is like comparing a Honda to a V-8 *Modified section of post* Old School terminology (V-8 = American Made Muscle Cars Pre 1972) (Honda = Small economy wimpy) Cranks from 4G63 almost identical to Honda (small wimpy) Four cylinder cranks. Cranks from G54B same diameter as some American made V-8 Muscle cars. Pistons and Rods in the G54B are also proportionately larger. Dollar for dollar the G54B is the best engine at this time for the Starquest. We are already seeing the 3000GT and engines (6G72) from that platform becoming available and for a more reasonable price. Which over time will (excuse the pun) eclipse the 4G63 swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeless Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 4g63 the motor is a very potent power plant and an excelent base to start from. it is capable of almost 500 hp on the stock bottom end. however it is not the end all engine. as far as the crank bearing issues (called crankwalk or walking crank) this is a problem with the 7 bolt dsm engine (93-99 eclipse talon laser). crank walk is when the the crankshaft bearings fail and the crank actually moves or walks along its axis. this problem was caused when mitsubishi redesigned the bottom end for faster revs and a lighter engine, the 6 bolt 4g63 cars do not have this problem (91-92 galant vr4, 90-92 eclipse talon or laser) there are also transverse 4g63 motors that were available in the lancer evolution IV and up. the engine is still mounted the same as the other version but it was turned around and the manifolds were switched, the intake is still in the rear and the exhaust is still in the front but every thing else was turned. if you need an example go down to the dealership and pop the hood on an evo 8. with the new engine mitsubishis enginers have build a stronger powerplant capable of much larger feats. there are even more options when working off the 4g63 platform, using the crank from a 4g64 naturally aspirated engine one can build a stroker kit with roughly 2.14l. or one can use the 4g64 block and machine it to fit the dohc turbo head of the 4g63 and have a 2.4 liter turbo. both blocks use the same basic mold with the '64 being slightly taller. 4g63 motors are readily available through out the states or can be ordered from japan, the question is what set up is right for you. as far as comparing hondas to v-8's that doesnt make sense, honda does build v-8 motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 . Â there are even more options when working off the 4g63 platform, Â using the crank from a 4g64 naturally aspirated engine one can build a stroker kit with roughly 2.14l. Â or one can use the 4g64 block and machine it to fit the dohc turbo head of the 4g63 and have a 2.4 liter turbo. Â both blocks use the same basic mold with the '64 being slightly taller. Â Ahhh, yes... I'm still kicking myself in the a**. I built a dual cam 2.4, ported/polished, forged internals etc...FP Green. But at the time, I had no idea of how to get a tranny to work with it, so I sold it to a friend with a DSM. I'm gonna do it again within the year. Hopefully. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJpowerHaus Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 "Now there is one exception as far as mounting a 2.0 trany to a 2.6 In the early D 50's that used a 904 auto trans they had a adapter plate that bolted on to the 2.6 engine and had the 2.0 lt bolt patteren to bolt to the trany. The thing that must be remembered inusing this adapter is it is thicker that the normal adapter thus you will need to adjust for the thicker adapter plate." ~Mark_T Why would anyone want to put a 2.0L auto on a 2.6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metric-man Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 If some of you have seen this artical sorry my bad . Here is the link I don't know if it is password protected. http://autospeed.com/cms/A_0260/article.html?popularArticle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 If some of you have seen this artical sorry my bad . Here is the link I don't know if it is password protected. http://autospeed.com/cms/A_0260/article.html?popularArticle That link's bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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