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#1 j.coulter

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:39 PM

I think my starter has gone bad. I beat on it and still did not get anything so I guess Im going to have to change it. How hard is this little project. Anyone let me know the hours and secrets for this job, it would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Justin





#2 JAinsworth

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:41 PM

Less than an hour.  Disconnect the battery FIRST.  A 2 foot extension with a swivel comes in handy for the top bolt.  Don't forget to unhook the small wire clipped on top.
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:00 PM

Is it best to do from the bottom?

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:08 PM

Yes

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:14 PM

also the bolts come out from the back ( tranny side ) as opposed to engine bay side. When I had to install one, that was what took me the longest to figure out ( why a bolt wouldn't fit LOL )
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:16 PM

Well, someone has to ask it..........

What makes you think that your starter is bad?
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:17 PM

Thanks for the help, Im going to get started now!

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:19 PM

QUOTE (FlattopMike @ Mar 19 2008, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, someone has to ask it..........

What makes you think that your starter is bad?


I go to start it nothing happens, however, I still get power to all accessories, etc. I tried jumping the battery and still got nothing. I don't really know where else to start. If you have any other ideas please let me know.

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE (j.coulter @ Mar 19 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I go to start it nothing happens, however, I still get power to all accessories, etc. I tried jumping the battery and still got nothing. I don't really know where else to start. If you have any other ideas please let me know.


hmmm - check the voltage on the battery when you crank it. Sometimes a battery can be so dead it'd take almost 30 minutes of jumping charge for it to crank over.
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:42 PM

Do a quick topic search. There are about a half dozen things that can cause that with the least likely being a bad starter.
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE (mikec @ Mar 16 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What type of tranny do you have in the car - auto?  If so, if the neutral safety switch is not working, or is mis-adjusted, the starter is disabled.  Try putting the tranny in neutral instead of park and turn the key.  Still nothing?  Move the lever back and forth while holding the key in START.  If it even bumps the starter once then fix the neutral safety switch/adjust it.

Also, the factory alarm disables the starter link.  Quick "reset" method: use the ignition key to lock and unlock a door.  In theory, unlocking the driver door is enough but, since that's the one that gets used the most, the alarm cancel sensor in that door tends to fail first.  Try locking and unlocking the passenger door, then see if the starter engages.

Otherwise, you're down to tracing wires.  The circuit to the starter solenoid is fairly easy:
battery + post --> IGN fusible link --> ignition switch input post --> ignition switch START post --> small wire at solenoid.
You need to trace those points, looking for +12volts on each one while holding the key in START.  When you get no volts, you've found the break in the circuit.  

A missing ground strap on the engine block will also lead to a no-start because the starter motor can't ground well enough for the huge current draw it demands.  Other ground wires try to take up the load - and burn out like fuses.  The throttle cable ends up being a ground and it burns up, welding the cable to the protective sheathing... destroying the cable.  The engine block ground is bolted to the driver side of the block, near the alternator.  On rebuilds, shops paint the blocks... if you didn't clean the paint off this point before installing the ground strap then that's the bug.

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 07:06 PM

the starters on these cars last forever because of the low compression engine; it is easy for the starter to spin the engine. I think it's not your starter that's the problem. Have you checked the fusible links?

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE (Technology @ Mar 19 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you checked the fusible links?


Or the small wire that clips on the top of the starter.

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:45 PM

QUOTE (j.coulter @ Mar 19 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think my starter has gone bad. I beat on it and still did not get anything so I guess Im going to have to change it. How hard is this little project. Anyone let me know the hours and secrets for this job, it would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Justin


Does it not kick at all anymore or sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't? i had the same problem and a new starter later i find that all i needed was a Positive batt. cable. pick one up first or with a alt and replace it first. urs is 20yrs. old so should be swaped anyway. 15 bucks at NAPA. could save you $80

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