T-Fath707 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Ok so when I bought the car all three fans were wired to a switch in the cabin. The switch melted completely and now the fans won't turn on. Where exactly can I run the wire that used to go to the switch so that my fans turn on with the ignition? Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Fath707 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 This is the wire that runs to the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 first you should get the radiator checked Rodded out or recored.or replaced with the aluminum one stickied in the Ebay for sale section.make sure all gaskets are in good shape on the tbody intake.make sure the fans are running strong flowing well.have you checked the Tstat make sure it is in good shape. there are 2 wires for the fan black and blue.then either a red or yellow. the red and yellow wires ground once the fan temp sensorat bottom of the radiator reaches the on temp of the switch. stock the passenger side grounds on at about 192 degrees.the riverside is the secondary side fan. it kicks on at 212 degreesstock on temp. if you make a jumper wire from the red to the yellow and then to ground.or some where on the chassis. it should turn on as the car starts and runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 I suggest that you look at this link from the SOS Manuals, http://starquest.i-x.net/viewtopic.php?t=1067 Also look at FSM, Cooling System, page 7 - 8 for the factory OEM wiring schematic of the cooling system electrical circuit to help you figure where you're at and how you are going to rectify the situation that you have. For What It's Worth. KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 just be sure to log on or you might not be able to see the pictures in the link posted by StarFighterPilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbrad511 Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 FORGET the toggle switch, or one of your next posts will be about overheating and cracking the head. Follow the advice above and fix it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Fath707 Posted September 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Ya I ditched the toggle switch. I wired the fans into the power wire of the passenger windshield wiper motor so now the fans come on with the ignition. Thanks for all the suggestions. I did notice my temp guage was going slightly above half and that is worrisome. But I haven't changed the coolant since I bought the car so hopefully a coolant flush and new fluids will solve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSMracespeed Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 You should put a relay between your power source and the fans otherwise you may end up burning up the switch that controls the wiper motor or possibly the power wire to the wiper motor if it is not thick enough(heavy gauge wire) to handle the current draw from the fans. Jerry L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbrad511 Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Are they the stock fans? Is the original wiring all there, and the sensors still in the radiator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Where do you live? I'm sure someone close could possibly help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Fath707 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) I live in the Bay Area they are stock fans and the thermosensors are there and they look to be in decent condition but I don't know if they work. The fans turn on with the ignition that could burn out the wiper switch? The original wiring is jacked up somewhat the fans are all wired together to one wire so. Someone on the facebook page suggested I do it this way that's why I did it. Edited September 12, 2015 by T-Fath707 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippynerd Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 The quick easy way would be to just replace the switch.You could repaire it to factory, assuming the wiring, relays, sensors all work, and if you only have to replace a sensor to get it to work, then its not too bad, but you may have to study chapter 8 a lot, and test each compnent and trace every wire. It may not be hard to fix, or it may take days, hard to say from here.Another option is to replace the elelctric fans with a clutch fan and shroud. Its more reliable, and lightens the load on the electrical system quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Fath707 Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 The way I have it wired now it works fine as far as I know. The fans turn on when I start the car and turn off when I turn the car off. I ripped the switch out and just wired it to the wiper power wire. Now if it's putting to much of a load on my electrical system I'm not quite sure but everything still seems to work the same so far. I'll probably just keep it like this until I see a reason for changing it. My question now is besides getting a different radiator or having the radiator rodded out what can I do to keep my quest cooler?? It's creeping very slightly over half on hot days sitting there idling any tips for keeping it cooler? Is It worth it to have the coolant flushed and refilled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbrad511 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Your 25+ year old fans will burn out sooner now. There is probably very little you can do to keep it cooler if the radiator needs servicing. A flush and fill MAY help, but likely won't. How's your t-stat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Ditch the factory boat paddle fans. They don't move enough air anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Fath707 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I don't know if the radiator needs servicing or not. It seems to work ok like I said it creeps to a little over halfway max. I don't know the condition of the t stat I'll probably replace it when I flush and refill the coolant. It's possible I have a cracked head or head gasket. I get a puff of smoke on cold start. So that may be why it's getting a lil hot. Car runs and drives great though so idk. What fans would you recommend to buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 A quality aftermarket like Flexlite, Spal or Maradyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Ditch the factory boat paddle fans. They don't move enough air anymore. 4500+ cfm isn't enough? Stock fans keep mine cool in 100+ degree weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 You probably don't know the answer to this question, seeing as though you just bought your Lady. A creeping up of coolant temp COULD be cause you are running old anti-freeze coolant or you have too great of a percentage of anti freeze to the DISTILLED water coolant solution. Here's how you get the proper ratio of DISTILLED water to anti-freese in the coolant system: " Completely drain the coolant system, including the engine block. I believe the agreed on correct ratio is 33% anti freeze to 67% DISTILLED water. Water has a much greater affinity to absorb/dissipate heat faster than Anti-Freeze. Better yet, take your LADY to a Jiffy Lube or similar shop that has a Engine Coolant flush Service System. It may be expensive (about $75.00) but I believe it's worth every penny. And specify that you want the above ratio of anti-freeze to DISTILLED WATER ratio to be replacing the unknown coolant that is being removed. In fact, I bring my own Distilled Water with me and make sure that they use it during the flush. The Coolant System's capacity is 9.22 quarts. If you are using straight anti-freeze, use 3 quarts of Anti-freeze to 6 + quarts of DISTILLED WATER. If you are using a solution of 50% antifreeze and 50% water out of the antifreeze jug, add 1.5 quarts of DISTILLED WATER and then add approximately 7.5 quarts of the 50/50% anti-freeze solution. A couple of Starquesters in the past,have stated that they could not understand why their Starquest started gradually running hotter after a year or so after topping off the coolant expansion tank with straight anti-freeze out of the jug. They dumped that anti-freeze solution and put in the above 33-67% solution and the coolant temperature went down to where it should be. This is because water has a much higher capacity to absorb heat and dissipate it than anti-freeze. You MUST use distilled water to keep from introducing minerals, which are dissolved in tap water, into the cooling system. These minerals tend to plate the internal heat transfer surfaces of the radiator, which after time reduces its heat transfer capability. This is the main reason that so many radiators have to be rodded out or replaced after a couple of years of use. Plus add just a couple of tablespoons of liquid dish soap into the radiator. This soap makes the coolant solution wetter which allows it to absorb and dissipate the heat of combustion better. The above is an excerpt from this post, which every new owner of a Starquest should read. http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=66449 Change your coolant per the above and then let us know at what temp shes running. For What It's Worth. KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Fath707 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks for the tips. Ya I've read the new owners tips and that's why I was gunna flush and change coolant. But a lot of people have told me it's not going to help and is a waste of money. I'm gunna do it this weekend and I'll let u guys know. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Great info Ken, I've been using a 50-50 mixture for the longest. It's actually better to run more water than anti-freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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