artinist Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 I received the final shock today and took some pics. the kit will use this cartridge in the front and rear. the fronts should be relatively easy to convert but the rears will require some effort. Its a rather crucial part of the vehicle and can't just be slapped together. At first I was going to bulid the rear strut housing from aluminum but I talked to some fabricators and they suggested that we use steel to prevent cracking due to high pressures in turns. If this suspension didn't put the camber load on the strut, we could have gotten away with a much lighter part. there are some more pics on my site. let me know what you guys think, http://www.antimpower.com/products/shocks/kyb01.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redquest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Art Good deal! I was going to ask how this was going and I get to work and there it is ;D Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquest351 Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Art, you ever think about using Koni cartridges? I love the Koni's and would love to have some on my Quest. Also have you thought about making a full kit with coilovers and everything included? I know I'd buy one. Laters, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 I am sure the Konis will just slip right in there instead of the KYBs but the konis are about $30 more than the KYBs each. Thats an extra $120. these things on their hardest setting will knock ones tooth out, I can't even move them by hand. cant wait to get this done ;D As for springs, I actually I must correct myself, I will not have a complete perch on the rear housings. I will just have a ring for the GC coilover sleve to sit on and therefore it will not work with stock type springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusky Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Sounds good Art. Keep us posted. How is the quality of the GAB compared to the other brands out there like Tokico, Koni, Bilstein, and KYB? I will be needing some to go along with the GC coilovers, so this looks perfect. Thanks for all the hard work. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 GABs are awsome, I dont know how to really rank them, I would say similar to KONI. but dont go looking for other brands for the MR2. the only ones that are the replaceable cartridge type are the KONI and KYB. Billstein, GAB and others come in complete sealed struts which are of no use in this case. The GABs I have for the starion have been discontinued for a while, they were not adjustable either. they were similar to the tokikos but about 15% stiffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusky Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 So will this just be for your car?? ??? If so, good for you, but bad for me. If you do offer some kind of kit, I would really like to see pics of your finished product. Best of luck to you. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 no it won't be just for me, It will available as a kit. Most likely I will leave it up to you guys to purchase the cartridges from anywhere you choose and you will be able to get the KONI or KYB. I dont plan on becoming a middle man for those. the hard part is the time in research and material cost of making the first set, then it becomes easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquest351 Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 My shop is a Koni dealer and I get killer deals on them so we may be able to work together on this. Are you gonna provide us with part numbers or applications to search for the cartridges? I can get prices for the Koni's already. I am also linked tightly with a Bilstein dealer so I can get those at a nice rate as well. Just lemme know on applications and I'll get ya prices. Thanks, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusky Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Oh yeah, now we're talking. We got the kit for the car, plus the hookups for the struts. Koni or Bilstein, either one is fine with me. Me likey this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainstreaM Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 would this work for us with the factory 8 ways? I have one that is stuck on the no.1 setting but the rest will adjust but new ones would be much better i believe. Any opinions. Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88TSI_Rob Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 Hmmm, If the cartridges and springs are going to be smaller than stock does that mean the car will sit lower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 Conquest351: i think the Koni part# is: "8641-1221 Sport" , a couple of prices I saw on the net wer $615 for 4 of them. hopefully you can get a better deal Rusky: Bilsteins wont work, they are complete struts, only koni and kyb will work MainstreaM: this will work for the adjustable suspention also. the rears will be in a complete housing, and the fronts will need the removoal of the stock internals so you can fit the cartridge in it. it might be some work, so you might want to see if you can locate a set of non-adjustable stock front struts. 88TSI_Rob: yes the fronts shocks will be about 1" shorter than stock. as I mentioned above, this kit will be compatible with Ground Control coilovers only. why spend the money and get these awsome socks and stay with regular springs? it will be too much work to try to make the rear shock hosing accept the stock type 5"wide springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquest351 Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 Well, the best I can do is $158.40 each and that comes to $633.60 for the set of 4, so I guess I'm not gonna be the best hookup. Unless, you have them done this month and buy a full set for the car then I can sell them to you at $601.92 for the set. My supplier is offering a monthly special for full sets. But that's up to you, I may just get me a set and hold em. LOL Laters, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 I think the kyb is just as good a shock. its only $98 from summit. free shipping and usually no tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 any updates on this? interested. and what about the corvette brakes on the car? are you doing that as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 I have been working the brakes lights and camber plates this week. my contact for machine went on vacation and wont be back till middle of next week so I am waiting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusky Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 What do you guys think about the Tokico struts? I know not as good as Koni's, but helluva lot cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetspd150 Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Make the kit using any type of strut and let that decision of what type of strut cartrige is used, be that of the purchaser. That way you pay for what you get. Quality or Cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 as mentioned earlier, the only shocks that are possible to use on this car are the koni and the kyb. no other shock manufacturer makes an adjustable cartridge that we can use. the konis are $150 each and the kyb $90 each. you can make the choice between those. I will not be selling the shocks. you can get them from summit or some other place and then use it with the kit that I am putting together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 i know it is too late. BUT how hard would it be to make it so you can use 2nd gen eclipse struts? is that even possible? IW, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 none of the eclipse shocks remotly resembly ours. one early 280Z and 2nd gen nissan maxima rear shocks are the ones that were even worth looking at but nothing worth messing with. i just spend $200 on a TAP to thread the top of the new housing. it will come in this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquest351 Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Hey man, any guesstimate on pricing for the whole kit yet? I am really looking forward to getting this from ya. Laters, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted July 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Brian, I think the price for the front and rear kit minus the shock cartridges should be between $200 to $300, probably in the $200 range. I just picked up the tap on the way to work. its one monster of a tap. http://home.earthlink.net/~artinist/images/tap.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMeyerhoff Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Holy Jimmy Carter look at that thing. mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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