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#1 83starionT

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 08:55 PM

I opened up the MAF on my 83 and compared it to the one on my 91 eagle talon.  My 83 has a circular plug that comes out of the MAF on a pigtail with 4 wires in it.  The 1g maf had 6 wires obviously a different connector which i already knew from reading here....so how do i wire this in, or can it be done to an 83???  Thx.





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Posted 29 April 2009 - 09:08 PM

there's a way you just got to dig around if i had time i'd try to find it again but i think it was in Advanced Virtual Mechanic  section
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Posted 29 April 2009 - 09:11 PM

Every place ive read only talks about the newer quests, not the older one.  I have the early model 83 its been a leaning experience, lol.  I'll keep looking.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 09:24 PM

the 6 wire DSM MAS is NOT the one you want though. you want the DSM TURBO MAS, 7 wires

The oldest SQ I've heard that someone has ran a 1G TURBO MAS on is an 86, the 83's have a completely unique setup compared to any other years though

Edited by D_Venable, 29 April 2009 - 09:25 PM.

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 06:38 AM

can i ask why you think you need to run a 1g mas on your 83?
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 06:47 AM

i've seen 30 psi out of a 18g on my stock mas and the car was rich as hell and you could smell the raw fuel and that was with msd box adn coil helping fire. by the way thats very scary with 6in tires

and here's the link
http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=72079
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67 mustang still restoring soon to be getting a 390

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 11:24 PM

Mainly just hearing about better throttle response, more parts availability.  Mine works fine lol.

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Posted 01 May 2009 - 12:03 PM

"If it aint broke don't fix it" is really true with an 83.
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Posted 01 May 2009 - 12:19 PM

Gotcha, with parts a rarity, that should be easy to follow.  Now i just have to keep finding fuel injectors for it, lol.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:04 AM

i did the 1st gen mas before i decided to do the engine swap. heres my post on a successful 1st gen mas on a 83

http://www.starquest...h=1#entry699878

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:18 AM

Can you update the pics in your post so they show up??

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 02:15 PM

Posted 26 February 2008 - 03:35 AM

hey guys i finally decided to do this so i kept track, took pictures and even drew up a diagram. i tried to make it as easy to read as possible for the first timer. All credit for this goes to Tim_C. qithout him i wouldn't of been able to do this upgrade at all.
Thanks tim

first things first, make sure your accordian hose has 2 nipples, if im not mistaken 87 widebodies have these. you will need the extra nipple to relocate the oil seperator. any info on any others that can be used feel free to update me.

Heres the aircan w/ the harness, i decided to use this end of the harness because i needed enough wire to reach the top of the 1st gen mas plug.
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i cut my harness right around the middle since i will be using it again for smog in the future
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this is how a complete 1st gen harness should look like from the back
1 2 3 4
x 5 6 7
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i cut the unneccesary wires off for less confusion, the only wires you need
for this is
x 2 3 x
X 5 x 7
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when your done connecting the frankenharness should look like this
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Here's a diagram that a whipped up, hopefully this helps
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too bad i cant enjoy this until i yank off my oil pan and figure out my damn oil pressure problem. :evil:

anywho enjoy fellas

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 02:18 PM

for some reason the link wouldn't allow my pics from photobucket to be seen so i had to go through and dig up those pics and repost here.  is there anyway this can be in the faqs or maybe even a sticky so that we can have this info handy?
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 08:25 PM

I'll sticky it for now.

The '83 fuel injectors will burn up if run hard in a racing environment. Since you are drifting that car, I strongly recommend getting a different injector set up. All you are doing now is burning up the few '83 injectors there are left. I have contacted at least two poeple for a set that you already scavenged, just to burn them up and make it yet harder to find a set. You even burnt up a practically brand new set you got from Chad. A set that should have lasted 20 years. Please get some new style injectors in there before there aren't any '83 injectors left.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 11:45 PM

thanks Tim for the sticky.  and 83 project toy sorry i didnt relize that the link you had put up was the same link that i was trying to put up so thank you for that.  im not sure why your link posts up my pics fine but when i put my link, they wouldnt show.  anyway, hows everyone been? i havent got a chance to communicate with any of my flatsider buddies in a while!
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 11:07 AM

Great illustrations guys!

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:59 PM

View PostTim_C., on 12 November 2009 - 08:25 PM, said:

I'll sticky it for now.

The '83 fuel injectors will burn up if run hard in a racing environment.

what about using the 1g maf on an 85? any risks to the injectors? thanks
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