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#21 IntercooledFlatty

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:31 AM

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Posted 17 May 2016 - 08:36 AM

any updates on stopping ability and daily driving?

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Posted 17 May 2016 - 09:25 AM

I'll be updating this in a few days. As of tonight I should have it out on the road if everything goes well. My initial feelings on the setup is that it works very well and I have no complaints. But that was a very short 6 block drive so wait until I get a few miles on it.

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 07:14 AM

Any updates on performance?
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Posted 05 June 2016 - 07:24 AM

Is this the factory proportioning valve?

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 07:32 AM

Yes I believe it is.

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 09:35 AM

It's usually in the rear of the vehicle right?  That's why I asked.
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Posted 05 June 2016 - 12:32 PM

I thought I had posted my impressions of it in here but apparently I didn't. Sorry about that, here is what I wrote about it in my build thread.

The manual brake conversion is nice and normal driving its awesome. I have not felt like it took too much effort to stop the car and I don't regret switching in the least. A small caveat though, I don't know what the car is like in an emergency stopping situation yet and that is something I definitely need to test. I also think that at some point I may adjust the pedal ratio when I tear the dash out of the car. Not because I feel its a necessity but because I understand that I am using the stock ratio (4/1) that was intended for power brakes and it would make me feel better to know I have it closer to what it would normally be engineered to be (7/1). More info on that later.


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Posted 12 July 2016 - 09:05 AM

I've just ordered all the stuff I need to redo my manual brakes in a way that I'm happy with. So I'll be updating this when I finish in a few days. I just wasn't happy with the cleanliness and aesthetics of how I installed this. Also I'll be adding a hydraulic e-brake setup.

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Posted 12 July 2016 - 10:03 AM

View Postspeedyquest, on 12 July 2016 - 09:05 AM, said:

I'll be adding a hydraulic e-brake setup.

Looking forward to seeing how you put this together. What are you doing to change the ratio?

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Posted 12 July 2016 - 10:26 AM

@jmswltn: The pedal ratio?  I am just drilling a new hole location for the pedal "arm" to make it closer to the 7/1 ratio manual brake cars typically come with as opposed to our 4/1.

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 04:45 PM

I was more referring to the front to back bias with the ebrake installed

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 10:43 AM

Oh I see. I have a Wildwood proportional valve between the front and rear brakes. Ill post pictures tomorrow so you can see it.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 06:37 PM

you forgot to update this man
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Posted 05 November 2016 - 09:06 PM

Ugh, yea I'll do that.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 09:52 PM

Here are two pictures of how the system ended up.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 10:02 PM

So, how much torque does it take to activate the e brake? :D
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Posted 05 November 2016 - 10:14 PM

Haha ohhhh id sayyyy 100 or so?!

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 10:55 PM

View PostBradrock, on 05 November 2016 - 10:02 PM, said:

So, how much torque does it take to activate the e brake? :D
you beat me to it... i saw that and thought that aint no handle bar... thats the bottom of a torque wrench :D :D

i like your setup, it looks super clean and minimalistic... i dont plan on running a hydro e-brake yet though so would i just route it to the factory splitter valve? and what did you do to your pedal for this?
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Posted 06 November 2016 - 09:43 AM

It's good to know that the manual brakes seem fine for stopping power. If I go that route, I think I might feel safer with a dual bowl master cylinder for daily driver. I've experienced the fun and excitement of a burst brake line before. :D
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