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#1 speedyquest

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:14 AM

For quite a  few months I've been acquiring parts to make a drastic transformation to my narrow body 87 starion. Well this weekend is the start of that project and I will be documenting it here. D_Venable was gracious enough to offer up his garage space and tools so I drove up to his place to spend just over a week bothering the crap out of him and spending way too much time in his garage making a mess lol.

The basic plan is to do some upgrading of the fuel system, install a few maintenance parts, paint both the body and engine bay, widen the car by making over-fenders, and lastly fabricating up a proper v-mount setup for the car.

I will be updating this regularly throughout the day and will probably set up my computer in the garage and stay logged into chat if you guys want to heckle me or offer up suggestions haha.

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#2 speedyquest

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:19 AM

Actually you guys may be able to help me out. Derek (D_Venable) and I have been going back and forth about which color I should paint the car. Its between semi-gloss white and semi-gloss grey. Since this is my first time doing body work or painting a car I am concerned with the quality of my work. Semi-gloss white would cover up mistakes pretty well. I do like white but grey would be awesome too.

Tell me what you think, what would you do?

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

Grey imo is really cool.  White has its drawbacks too.  My vote is grey thought.  Good luck it sounds like you got a lot of work for 1 week.
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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:50 PM

Here is where I am starting from.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:01 PM

Almost ready to start measuring and fabbing up mounts etc for the V-mount. First I need to cut some of this radiator support out.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:49 PM

Alright, thats out of the way. It looks like the lower radiator support will foul the position the radiator needs to be in not to mention the ducting for the air leaving the radiator. Another thing to consider is that the suspension uses that lower section as a brace. What I think will work well is cutting out that brace and then welding in a tubular brace about 5 inches back. This will allow it to continue doing its job of a supporting the suspension parts it needs to and also give me the room I need.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:10 PM

Weld in brace............. before cutting brace............so it doesn't move out  of place........................   
(gun metal grey).......... polished spartons  rims...................

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:13 PM

Yep for sure. I appreciate you looking out too. I certainly don't want to be changing the geometry of anything.

Here is a picture of mocking up the radiator and intercooler position. This is all subject to change, I'm sure after Derek gets off work and we sit down and look at it for awhile we will find ways of optimizing it.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 05:29 PM

I like what im seeing here

IM STARQUEST 4 LIFE ....
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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:15 PM

Interesting.  Definetly interested in the out come. Good luck.
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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:20 PM

Cool looking start there man. Gonna be an interesting build for sure.
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my shaft was big i dont know what your talking about.

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 02:54 PM

Well Derek and I just got back from the hardware store. Ended up spending just under 200.00 in supplies. So today the plan is to finish up the mounting and relocating the front frame rail brace. That will allow us to fan up the brackets for the radiator and finalize its location. When that's done the motor can come out and prepping for painting it can start.

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 05:10 PM

I thought intercoolers let air flow through them with little resistance so that the radiator can be behind and still get good flow?
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Posted 05 July 2014 - 05:55 PM

That is very true. The purpose of a v-mount setup is not meant to improve upon that. Its meant to use high and low pressure zones to create a more efficient rate of air flow and decrease engine bay temps.

Another update. I've got the old lower radiator support out and trimmed down the caster bar supports some. Next is to create a new support and strengthen the caster mounts to it.

Also that bar at the end of the frame rails is just there to ensure the rails stay where they should be. That will be removed soon.

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Edited by speedyquest, 05 July 2014 - 05:56 PM.

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 08:29 PM

Oh, and we're going gloss smoke grey
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Posted 05 July 2014 - 09:13 PM

Cool! Flatty Love!
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:09 AM

I wasn't able to get ahold of any sheet steel to make the new lower cross brace so to keep progress going we ended up pulling the engine out. We will be picking up steel on Monday. Today I plan on pulling everything out of the engine bay and starting to prep it for paint.

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Edited by speedyquest, 06 July 2014 - 10:09 AM.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:42 AM

I am glad yours doesnt have all the extra crap mine took forever to get in order but i also had to peice the engine bay together with my parts car
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:26 AM

You should like... shave and tuck your engine bay... I mean, just my .02
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 12:19 PM

Do you plan to vent your hood?
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