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#1 4WStarion

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:10 PM

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How it looked when I got it.
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ready for panel work
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panel work done, engine bay painted fitted front end and steering etc and goin back for paint.
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painted, this whole process was over a year
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Somes pics of the rear end.
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I'll update this soon but its getting pretty close to a driving car.
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:16 PM

that is some real nice work there. cant wait to see the finished pictures!!
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:16 PM

4th photo is out of order should have been this:
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:21 PM

Real nice. I would like to see better pics of the rear susp. when you get time.. LOOOVE the diff cover.
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:47 PM

i have seen pics ofa rear steering starion i
believe a few years a go. i think it was on
austarion or something like that. the car was
a prototype i believe. it was to be destroyed
but was somehow saved.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:19 PM

Can we get a pic of the rear wheels at full steering to see how much the rear's move? :D

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:54 PM

The history is unknown, I had someone from Mitsubishi here try to gain information but he came up empty handed.

A car dealer buying stock in Japan came across this car and bought it for his mate and shipped it to New Zealand. In those days (1989) you could bring the cars in without the engine (pretending they were going to be parted) then refit the engine and get it road legal. Now days anything goes.
There story is that may have been up to 5 of them but no others have surfaced as far as I know, i guess it was built around the same time others were playing with 4ws, eg: Honda Prelude, Mazda Capella/626's and Toyota and is a very early widebody.

This one was owned by the same guy for 19 years before I got it, he used it every day (not what Mitsubishi intended when they built it I'm sure) but he parked it outside the whole time because he had some nice old Dodges he kept undercover. The car has covered 114,000kms and although the paint was faded it is in otherwise very good condition.

I can't show photos of the wheels turning beacuse it only works at speed and I doubt they would move enough to see anyhow.


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Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:28 PM

What is the control mechanism for the rear steer? I see what looks like a high pressure line so I assume it is powered off of the power steering punp. Is there a valve body or a solenoid that controls pressure to control the rear mechanism?
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:59 PM

However its controlled is in the steering box as far as I know, nothing electrical involved that I've seen. I just hope it bleeds up and works again Posted Image
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:12 PM

same rear suspension set up as a 1g dsm or galant vr4. everything is almost identicle.its has a rack driven from the power steering pump and a small mechanical booster pump driven from the top of the rear diff.
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:59 PM

^Yes except the hubs, I want to convert to 5 lug like I have the front but am a bit scared of destroying the hub, + I don't think the 3 bolt axle flange will fit on the wheel shaft through the centre of the hub.

I haven't looked closely at the Galant hubs to see if one day I could fit them.

How it sits now.
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Posted 24 September 2010 - 06:42 AM

damn thats cool man.  I'd be too worried something might happen to it being so rare, I might just leave it in the garage!

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 08:12 AM

View Postidriftjunk, on 24 September 2010 - 06:42 AM, said:

damn thats cool man.  I'd be too worried something might happen to it being so rare, I might just leave it in the garage!

Me too, well aside from some autocross. It would kill me not to see how that thing can really turn!
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Posted 24 September 2010 - 03:13 PM

How does it feel to know you have a car that Mitsubishi put a rack-and-pinion in the rear of, but kept a steering box up front? :lol:

This is quite a rare piece indeed, the paint is looking great!

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I see you got that Limited Edition ish.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 05:31 PM

you should try to get a 92-94 1g dsm rear setup in there they are 4bolt axles and barley ever break. they are also 5 lug too.
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:35 AM

View Postscreemin eagle, on 24 September 2010 - 05:31 PM, said:

you should try to get a 92-94 1g dsm rear setup in there they are 4bolt axles and barley ever break. they are also 5 lug too.

Yeah but the gearing of that diff is pathetic at best.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 04:59 PM

Whats this dsm stuff? same as Galant VR4 RS? They have 4 bolt axles.

A LSD is a no go I think, the feeling the back steering has combined with LSD would be scary with a little traction loss, it would spin out i reckon.
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 07:55 PM

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 08:11 PM

if u need any specs or pix of a 1g galant vr4 let me know, mines outside lol. they probably work the same.. 1.5 degrees above 25mph
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Posted 03 October 2010 - 01:11 AM

View PostDave-O, on 25 September 2010 - 03:35 AM, said:

Yeah but the gearing of that diff is pathetic at best.
what are nonsense are you talking about its the same ratio as these cars 3:54. they just dont have the options of any other ratio's.

asfar as being the same as the galant vr4 rs i dont know whats in that specificly. a dsm is an eclipse talon or laser. they came 5 lug here. for the 4 bolt you would have to swap the internals over to your housing to keep the diff driven pump. lsd with 4ws isnt scary its only a problem with a locker style diff or a spool. if your still against the lsd they were available without it. if your looking for the 5 lug hubs for the rear go to www.mitsubishigraveyard.com and talk to gary he will be able to help you out.
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