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#1 NotaDeLorean

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 09:42 AM

It's probably a little early to be posting this but I just wanted to share what I'm working on and see if I can get some feedback as to how others have upgraded their audio.

I've been working on this mount which bolts into all 4 of the factory holes just like the stock bracket but fits a 6.5" speaker. It's perfectly centered from where the stock 5.25" speaker was and just about the same height as well. All without doing any cutting to the door. Unfortunately with the poorly designed door panel it'll need to be cut so I'll be reworking this to come up with a solution. If anyone cares to share what they've done to fit a 6.5" I would appreciate some references to work with.

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 09:58 AM

Because of the stock grille design and size, i bet most if not all that went to 6.5" used new larger grilles and cut the panels larger to accommodate the new speakers. I wanted mine to look factory, so went with high quality 5.25" separates with good amplified RMS power to them. Sounds great, even though a 6.5" would be much better for mid-range. I am following this, because i wouldn't mind going to 6.5", but not at the expense of modding the door panel/grille.
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Posted 06 February 2019 - 11:04 AM

That was exactly my thoughts on going with these 6.5". I was set that if I couldn't mount them without cutting that I wouldn't be doing it. I would just go 5 1/4 but the factory cutout behind the grill is horrible. Now my plan is to attempt something like a restomod to keep it looking as close to stock as possible.

Here is the grills I plan to use. The middle piece painted matte black to keep it from standing out:
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Posted 06 February 2019 - 12:46 PM

I cut out the extra carpet and wood from the backside while leaving the grille alone to allow more area for sound through the 5.25's
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Posted 06 February 2019 - 07:53 PM

Cut the door with die grinder cut off wheel ......So the speaker will fit in side the door.........I have done 1 side on my car and still need to do the passenger side.....use OEM speaker mount and mount 6.5 speaker to OEM mount........car door panel sits flush and u don't have to cut up the door panel

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 08:34 AM

Have pictures of what you did? The mount I made keeps the speaker in the factory location with the exception of being maybe 1-2 mm higher to prevent cutting the door. I picked up a spare door panel last night so I can come up with some sort of solution or just ditch the idea and go 5 1/4.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:58 PM

I will look for a picture tomorrow............

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:32 AM

if u mount the speakers solid and insulate the openings in the door, it makes a huge difference.... even 5 1/4
At least on par with modern oem. My last starquest JBLs did

I set out to challenge solid oem caliber, using only head unit power + efficient speakers
Adopted that a while back after hearing the 'full sound' that 2005ish honda accord delivered

oem honda rear deck 6x9s puny magnets were like 1.5" diameter x 1" deep
Taught me there was no need for that big ol heavy magnet crap!

for door speakers I normally dremel out the tweeter pod/pole, and mount it up near door mirror too - lol
partsxpress 'special-buy' $9 Delco 6x9 delivered surprising sound, custom mounted in my 240sx doors.

took me 3 attempts at rear deck mount $27 6x9s in my old fwd corolla. Left the top fabric untouched.
Always liked that stealth, no-speakers-in-view

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:05 AM

Thanks for the info, jinx. I plan to stick with head unit power as well. If I did decide to go with an amp it would likely be similar to the Alpine amp that connects inline to head unit for 45w RMS.

I was tinkering with the idea more yesterday afternoon and I think I've decided to just scrap the idea and go with 5 1/4" instead since I really don't want to cut on the car. What I will do is follow similar to what pchrist did with his car by cutting out the area behind the grill to allow more sound through. I will still design my own bracket to mount them so using a baffle will be easier. I'll have to get some 5 1/4 speakers ordered and see what I can come up with.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:26 AM

5.25's using stock mounting bracket
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:29 AM

Tweets in place of the old dash speakers
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:31 AM

Previous one is the difficult one on driver's side, hence the chopped up mounting plate. This one is passenger side.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:33 AM

How far off is the speaker from the actual opening of the grill? If I remember right the speaker is actually higher than the grill.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:35 AM

Very nice pchrist! That's a clean install.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:37 AM

I gotta have my tunes clean, clear and loud. One car i'm running a 4 channel amp for fronts on front channels, and bridged rear channels to a 10" sub. The other car i have 2 x 2 channel amps wired in a similar manner. Both cars run the rear 6.5's off the head unit rear channels.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:39 AM

View PostNotaDeLorean, on 12 February 2019 - 09:33 AM, said:

How far off is the speaker from the actual opening of the grill? If I remember right the speaker is actually higher than the grill.
It's close enough to get all the sound out clean. Just cut out the door panel extra material and carpet, leaving enough meat for the grille retainer clips to hold it secure.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:42 AM

I hear you on the sound quality, and I really like what you did with those components. I might have to borrow that idea for myself because I never thought to do that. I can throw these 6.5" in the rear and find me a nice component set and be done with it. I appreciate you posting that.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:53 AM

10" JL in custom box, strapped to my rear strut bar. Still fits my golf clubs.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:56 AM

Other car is a store bought box with a 10" Kicker that i modded in height to fit after this pic was taken.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:02 AM

Nice work. Look like you did a clean install on your wiring as well. What strut brace is that and where can I get one?




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