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#1 SHANNON

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 09:07 PM

Any help would be appreciated.  I just replaced the clutch and resurfaced the fly wheel in my '86 Dodge Conquest TSI two months ago.  Following break-in of 500 miles, clutch is slipping.  Any advice on where I should go from here?  I do have a fly wheel off of a '88 automatic transmission car.  Do I work with what I have or start over with new clutch and fly wheel?  The clutch I purchased is linked below.  

Car is basically stock with 2.5 inch exhaust, no cats, HKS exhaust, boost controller set at 12 lbs.

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 11:01 AM

did u replace the pressure plate too??  springs loose pressure over time ..............

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 02:46 PM

Did you change out the release bearing?  If so, was it the correct one?  There are two different types.   Non-intercooled cars have a thicker release bearing than intercooled cars.  Typically the auto parts stores give you the wrong one when you ask for a release bearing on an 86 or 87 widebody.  That would definitely result in holding the pressure plate open and causing the clutch to slip.

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:42 PM

Yes replace the pressure plate and far as the release bearing that sits on the backside of the pressure plate not sure how that would cause a problem if anything it wouldn't engage far enough I would think the original one was a metal and seemed a lot heavier the new one was what I would call cheap plastic
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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:44 PM

Please check out the link for the clutch I purchased says for intercooled only
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 01:15 PM

I cannot tell by that small photo.  The release bearing is not plastic.  The nonintercooled bearing is physically larger and would apply constant pressure to the pressure plate springs causing the clutch to be partially engaged all of the time.  

I wouldnít trust anything that eBay add says. Itís a $75 clutch lol.  Even the big box parts stores screw it up.  

Somewhere on here there are detailed photos of the two bearings.  Just cannot remember where at the moment.  Either the faq or the old sos forums


Itís also possible that the $75 clutch is just a pos lol.  But I have heard of others having success with these eBay clutches, although most were a 240mm setup

How can they make a profit on these?  It blows my mind.  The material cost alone is more than $75.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:27 PM

If you are leaking any oil or had leaking oil at some point or coolant leak from heater hoses at the back of engine or leaking main seal or front trany seal  that will contaminate everything in flywheel or clutch area and cause slipping.Very noticeable on the highway if you step on it? Rpms go up but car does not pick up speed much.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:35 PM

If you are leaking any oil or had leaking oil at some point or coolant leak from heater hoses at the back of engine or leaking main seal or front trany seal  that will contaminate everything in flywheel or clutch area and cause slipping.Very noticeable on the highway if you step on it? Rpms go up but car does not pick up speed much.  I had problems w this while back thought my clutch was toast just needed cleaned up and leaks fixed. But could be other things.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 09:39 PM

I will say that the release bearing was diferent than the stock one that was in the car  and the one in the picture is more like the the stock one I took out. The one that came in the kit was plastic. I wish I could post pictures but says they are too big i know i suck at this .
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 10:04 PM

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 07:16 AM

Any luck?    

Another thing I thought of was the slave cylinder rod.  Did you replace anything in the hydraulics when you did the clutch?

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 11:21 AM

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LEFT: Flatty bearing     RIGHT: Fatty bearing
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Posted 31 August 2018 - 12:50 PM

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 01:02 PM

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the one on the left is the  factory one and the one onthe rightr is the one that came in the kit

i supose i should take off the inspection plate and see if there is any oil there when i took it apart there was kind of a oily mess in there just figured it was from years of grime 32 to be exact
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Posted 31 August 2018 - 02:26 PM

heare is before and after the clean up
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Posted 31 August 2018 - 02:33 PM

I said the new throwout bearing was plastic i gess you would call it a composite material.

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 03:10 PM

I also replaced the slave cylinder, got that on e bay,  when it came there was no rod so i used the old one, told the person it came from it was usless with out the rod so they refunded my money. Seems to work fine :) also does any one know about what i am going to call the dampener in the stock slave cylinder the new one did not have it in there so i put it in the new one maby i should have left it out any thoughts,
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Posted 31 August 2018 - 08:35 PM

I've read many times, that you are supposed to REMOVE the dampener.   So take it back out of your new slave.....

http://www.starquest...howtopic=135791

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Posted 01 September 2018 - 12:19 PM

For what its wourth i does seem to hold when it is cold but as soon as i drive a while it progressivley gets wourse, it will  slilip badley 2nd throu 5th and aventually it will slip in 1st, how much hp do you

think i am making with the k&n air filter upgraded 2.5 exhaust and 12 lbs of boost .
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Posted 01 September 2018 - 10:11 PM

Too much pedal preload?
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