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Posted 11 October 2010 - 09:55 PM

Well, I have an '83 DD that has 150K miles on the body. It had a hydraulic head on it so I assume the head or entire engine was replaced at some point. I haven't torn it apart to see. Anyway, it has a bottom end rattle that could be a rod starting to knock. I parked it as soon as I heard it. Still ran fine, but once in a while the oil pressure gauge would go low and then come back up.

I pulled it out friday night. I had a fresh short block assembled by the machine shop that did the work. Forged Wisecos. Not sure what rings they put in it. I also had a new casting marnal head with new oversize valves and minor porting, done by the same shop. All new timing set, Schneider 274 hydraulic slip rocker cam with HD springs. New oil pump of course, no balance shafts and all internals balanced.

The clutch and flywheel are stock, but worked fine before, so I decided to use it since I want to drive the car daily and really wanted a smooth clutch more than grip. I have a couple of good used stock clutches laying around too, so I have a long time before I need a new one. The engine came with a new fidanza and performance yellow case pressure plate clutch, but the seller couldn't tell me what brand it was. Only that he got it on e-bay, so I didn't trust it to have a good feel. I can put it in another one when I need to.

I got the new engine in this weekend, and put the finishing touches on it this afternoon after work. It fired right up, oil pressure came up, and no leaks anywhere so far. Runs very smooth. I haven't revved on it, and won't until the rings break in. I ran it at 2500+ RPM for 15 minutes to break the cam in.

I drove it home from the alternator shop where I did the work. All seems very normal, so I feel a bit relieved and hope to get a reliable car out of it. It drove before very well on the highway with lots of passing power. I love the quick spool of the non intercooled, and better power on demand, although not as much top end and overall power as an intercooled car. This engine will be even better than the old one. I can feel quite a power increase.

The car is a little rough body wise with a few small dents in line down the passenger fender and on the door. Original clear coat coming off in chunks. A little rust in the wheel wells, but other than that it is fine. Before the engine, I only used parts I had laying around to keep it running. I paid $2000 for the long block, ARP head studs, full gasket set, fidanza, and clutch with engine stand. Bought it all last January. Seems like it is paying off and was everything the PO said it was. I only have about $2500 in the whole car now. The old engine is on the stand to be torn down when I get time. Which might not be until spring the way my job is keeping me busy lately.

I thought about just keeping the car for parts for the CBRII, but it was too good for a parts car, so I decided to fix it and drive it.
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Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 01:11 AM

nice. so why does the non i/c have better response i wonder?

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:35 PM

Well, Mitsu documented a loss in spool time on the 85.5 intercooled vs. non-IC. It wasn't much, but noticeable. Plus, the non-IC turbos seem to spool faster than the 12A. To me anyway.
Plus, the cars weigh a bit less. Especially this one with no ABS, LSD, or AC, and some interior stripped. The kid who had it before me had stripped the interior out to drift it. He must have done some drifting to get the row of small dents, and loss of all fluid in the passenger rear strut.

I have the '84 parts car that I just pulled the rear struts from. They look to be fairly newly replaced aftermarket ones. Probably Autozone specials. I plan to put those in tomorrow. I also pulled the LSD/torque tube and hope to get it in there too tomorrow. The brakes on the parts car were new too. The rotors look new with just a little surface rust. This was a car I paid $75 for with a seized engine. Turns out it was only some water in the cylinders from a cracked head. It had all parts with it, and the clutch and flywheel assembly was a brand spankin' new Luk. Installed but zero miles on it. They must have thought the clutch was seized? Dunno, but they gave up and practically gave it to me. I used a lot of the parts to restore the CBRII.
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Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
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Posted 13 October 2010 - 07:34 PM

Let me add to this , i have here a 87 non intercooled flatty automatic and a 88 intercooled automatic widebody with a 14g and both running very well , let me just say the bone stock flatty is right there with the slightly modded widebody when the light goes green !  :)

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 08:42 PM

Yes Scotty, that's exactly what I'm talking about!  :) Flatty love!  :P

After driving this one a few days, I noticed a change in it's personality. The stock motor was very quick to respond, but gave up fairly early, although it would top out around 125MPH.

This engine is quick to respond but it is due to the compression increase of 8:1. The 274 cam doesn't come on until 2K, but then it comes on very strong and will accellerate through top end just the same. Although I haven't taken it up at all. Haven't needed to. I barely give it gas and the turbo spools. It seems to go on its own after that. I'd have to think it will get decent mileage since it has lots of power with little gas pedal. I'd have to keep it from spooling though, which is hard to do on this one, and less fun.  :D
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Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
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Posted 01 April 2011 - 10:43 PM

Just an interesting update: The new engine is still doing well. Hasn't leaked a drop of oil.

I tore apart the old engine that was in the '83. I'm pretty sure it is an '88 engine with less than 50K miles on the long block. It was in an '88 before that was rolled at 25K. I got the trans out of it, but the engine was sold to someone else. This engine shows many signs that it is low miles. However, it was run low on oil. The kid who bought it after the guy who swapped the '83 motor out and '88 in, drifted it and ran it low on oil. The head looks very fresh still. Rod 1 bearing was starting to eat itself. I pulled the engine just in time. The crank looks fine. I still need to mic it, but it looks okay. The back sides of all rod bearings has changed color from heat.

Another reason we are 99% sure it is the low miles engine out of the rolled '88, is that it has marks on the cylinder walls where you can see it sat for a long time without being run. A little residual moisture was in the oil ring cavities, and you can faintly see the pattern in the cylinder walls. That rolled car sat for many years before the owner finally gave up his thoughts of fixing it and let it go.

I should be able to do a bear bones rebuild on it and have it ready to go again.
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Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
'97 Buick Ultra (supercharged Park Avenue)

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 12:09 PM

Makes me want to pull my head and start checking my cylinder walls.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 09:52 PM

Yeah, I looked closer at the crank. It will need a .010 turn put on it, but that's normal. I'm still happy I got tit pulled before it got damaged beyond repair. I will probably do the block right too and bore it and install new pistons. The old pistons have seen severe detonation. The kid who owned it before must have cranked the boost. The pistons are all scuffed up on one side at the top. They are damaged beyond reusing them. Time for a good set of forged to go in there.

At least I have a good builder block, crank, and rods to work with. The head is in great shape too. It had the OEM head gasket, OEM head set-up.
'87TSi .510Roller Cam, JE Forged, TS Rings & plateau honed walls, lightened rods, race prepped crank, mains line honed, balanced, 17C, 3"EX, 2"HardPipes, AlFly, rrfpr, 88trans, 3.90's w/posi plate mods, polyBushings, STSprings, KYBStruts, Camber Plates, CustomAlternator
Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
'97 Buick Ultra (supercharged Park Avenue)

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:09 PM

Another update for this car:
Engine is running good again. I took it to lunch a couple of months ago and it died on me and wouldn't start. The '83 injectors would just click and engine would crank but not start.
So I put another injector cup set in it. If you don't know, the '83's had both injectors mounted inside of a 'cup' with hardwires coming directly from the injector body.
Well, the new set ran, but would idle terribly. They were leaking at idle. So I had a really bad looking old '83 intake that I pulled the injector cup out of and slapped it in. At this point with these parts being very rare, what do I have to lose?
Turns out they run perfect! So she is back on the road and driving like new! LoL!
This car is very reliable so far. I'm glad I didn't let it go to the junkyard 7 years ago.
'87TSi .510Roller Cam, JE Forged, TS Rings & plateau honed walls, lightened rods, race prepped crank, mains line honed, balanced, 17C, 3"EX, 2"HardPipes, AlFly, rrfpr, 88trans, 3.90's w/posi plate mods, polyBushings, STSprings, KYBStruts, Camber Plates, CustomAlternator
Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
'97 Buick Ultra (supercharged Park Avenue)

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 01:56 PM

Well, I thought it was RELIABLE! LoL! It started acting up again. Turned out to be the ECU. Running fine again for now.
'87TSi .510Roller Cam, JE Forged, TS Rings & plateau honed walls, lightened rods, race prepped crank, mains line honed, balanced, 17C, 3"EX, 2"HardPipes, AlFly, rrfpr, 88trans, 3.90's w/posi plate mods, polyBushings, STSprings, KYBStruts, Camber Plates, CustomAlternator
Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
'97 Buick Ultra (supercharged Park Avenue)

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:26 PM

cool to c u still have a 83 DD..... and u still have spare 83 ECI parts :o
the starquests in your sig all in your current stable ?
starquests ecu been relatively reliable.... nothing like a DSM ecu

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:39 PM

Yeah, I still own all of them. They all run now too except the '84 parts car. Not much left of it except fenders, doors, good quarters, bumpers, header panel and hood. Interior is mostly there, but trashed from mice. It had broken quarter windows when I bought it complete for parts.
The daily driver '83 runs stronger with the latest injector set I put in it, so I'm glad I did that even though the problem didn't go completely away until I swapped the ECU.
'87TSi .510Roller Cam, JE Forged, TS Rings & plateau honed walls, lightened rods, race prepped crank, mains line honed, balanced, 17C, 3"EX, 2"HardPipes, AlFly, rrfpr, 88trans, 3.90's w/posi plate mods, polyBushings, STSprings, KYBStruts, Camber Plates, CustomAlternator
Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
'97 Buick Ultra (supercharged Park Avenue)

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 04:36 AM

WoW i wonder if you can get the injectors cleaned and flow tested? maybe have a second set as a backup...

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:55 PM

The '83 injectors are driven harder by the fuel management system and they burn out easier. If you race or drift the car, they will burn out. They must heat up literally, so they run great for short spurts and will last if you can allow them to cool after boosting for a few seconds. The set that is in it now, is very good and feel like new injectors. But the CBRII car needs a set of good ones because they give up if I try to accelerate too fast. They hit a wall where they didn't used to.

I drove the daily driver '83 70+ miles on the highway a couple of days ago. It runs very well now. Only 4 Lbs of non-intercooled boost, and it pulls very hard. I love the torque of the 2.6L. There is no engine like it. You can pull the speed limit up any hill with a slight touch of the gas pedal and off boost entirely. I counted 105 cars on the way to the airport at 4am. LoL!
'87TSi .510Roller Cam, JE Forged, TS Rings & plateau honed walls, lightened rods, race prepped crank, mains line honed, balanced, 17C, 3"EX, 2"HardPipes, AlFly, rrfpr, 88trans, 3.90's w/posi plate mods, polyBushings, STSprings, KYBStruts, Camber Plates, CustomAlternator
Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
'97 Buick Ultra (supercharged Park Avenue)

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:41 PM

I did drive it back home the 70+ miles a few days later with no problems. The temp stays around 3/8 on the gauge and below half uphill. And we have some pretty big hills here! The only bad thing about a manual fan clutch set-up is it takes a while to warm up in cold weather. Like 10-15 minutes if it is parked in 30 degree or below weather. My '86 ESiR with electric fans warms up in about 5 minutes, and so does my '87 TSI, but I don't drive it as much in cold weather.
I have removed the fan for winter before in my '85, but I only drove it a few miles to work and back. It would do fine on the highway too, but if I hit road construction where traffic is jammed, it can start to heat up.
I'm just very happy to be driving my '83 again with the true 8:1 compression and quick spooling non-intercooled turbo at 4.5 lbs of boost or so. That is where the factory setting puts the boost at my altitude at least. Professor Quest got the same boost on his factory flattys in Albuquerque too. Some people say it is 7 PSI for non-intercooled cars, but I have never seen that on any of the 3 I have up here at 5800'.
The Schneider 284 hydraulic cam has great top end too. It is a fun combo to drive with a tight short shifter. The stock '87 TSI exhaust with gutted cats and dual tipped muffler works good too. It is big enough for this set-up and application, but a little bigger exhaust wouldn't hurt.
The one legged rear end (almost all '83's were) keeps me from wanting to intercool it and crank up the boost. Plus it is nice to have one that isn't modded to the hilt with the problems that mods bring.
'87TSi .510Roller Cam, JE Forged, TS Rings & plateau honed walls, lightened rods, race prepped crank, mains line honed, balanced, 17C, 3"EX, 2"HardPipes, AlFly, rrfpr, 88trans, 3.90's w/posi plate mods, polyBushings, STSprings, KYBStruts, Camber Plates, CustomAlternator
Traded for new set of tires for my wife's Buick: '87 TSI Gold that needs just about all steering and suspension parts replaced, injectors, a new transmission, clutch, and various electrical gremlins. New owner is a mechanic who is already driving it. I couldn't stand letting it sit any more!
'86 ESiR - OEM Roller Cam, Wiseco Forged 8:1 Pistons, Chad's equal length header, TEP T3/T4 turbo, ACT HD clutch, Fidanza Fly, custom 3" exhaust, 3 core oversized radiator, O-ringed block, AJUSA metal shim head gasket, Dawes Device boost controller
'85 Plymouth Conquest Auto , Wiseco 8:1, super light pins, shaved rods, hi-torque cam, 2.5 Exhaust
'84 Dodge Conquest Parts car
'83 Starion - Gutted stock exhaust with '87 TSi muffler, New engine with: BS Elim,forged Wisecos,balanced,Schneider274H,marnal w/oversized stainless valves
'83 Cannonball Run II Jackie Chan car, Basic ring and bearing job w/less than 6K original miles on body, steering, suspension, & rear end, Lightened stock fly, BS Elim, Walbro 255LPH FP, NEW Clearwater head with all new parts, intercooled, 14G turbo, 2750 car weight
'96 Mitsu Mirage w/rebuilt head. Gets 35+MPG.
'87 Dodge Ram50 4WD Rebuilt engine, fresh stock head, Weber carbed, BS elim. Runs great now!
'97 Buick Ultra (supercharged Park Avenue)




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