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#1 Lance_S

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:34 PM

Is anyone running this combo?   If so, how do the years feel?  Short?  Long?  How is highway cruise?  Does it suffer frOm performance?  Hp limits?  Can I make up a paddle shifter setup to change gears manually with paddles?  Will it hold up driving it with the paddles?

Sorry for all the questions, seriously considering the swap but five and six speeds are expensive for the 2jz platform.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:59 PM

lance you have got to get off that phone man. lol
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 10:33 AM

Lol, truth.  When I say stock auto tranny btw, I don't mean g54 auto tranny, I mean the aristo auto tranny.  It's a 4 speed.
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 06:39 PM

I don't know anything about the autos...but the r154 is a BEEFY 5 speed and will support 700hp in stock form. It is not nearly expensive as the 6 speed..just food for though...Vettekiller, Serpent, BOHO, Jeph_tsi, Phinko,...we are all running the r154 tranny.
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:39 PM

Thanks B, yeah I was thinking about the r154 but I also thought the 2j comes with the auto and it will save a grand on the build not having to switch to an r154.  I also thought the paddle shifting would be fun and it's really quick.  I have read with a better torque converter the auto will hold 500 hp which is all I need.  Even with a 4 speed it should be crazy quick.  Just wondering with our rear end how well the gears would work and what rpm at cruise would be.
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 10:05 PM

Yeah it would be neat. Like I said I don't knowanything about the auto's...I'm sure there are valve body mods for them...Even if you just put a ratchet shifter and a 2200 stall on it it would be nice.
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 08:53 AM

there has been a lot of interst in the 2JZ to the GM auto trans lately, I spoke to vette killer about it, all the kits to fit the GM to the JZ are either not in stock or over $1000.00 bucks because they do it stupid with a wild flexplate
   But if you want an affordable auto trans, I would have thought the C4 ford would be the right choice, just to keep the tunnel in good shape, but thats just me
   I found the right tool I been looking for and I have the problems solved for the GM adapter, I will be putting it together as soon as I get some other stuff out of the way
    I just didnt see why you would need the big, heavy GM auto trans over the light compact Ford
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 03:12 PM

I want the gm adapter because I want a overdrive trans that will hold big power reliable.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:40 AM

here s the info i know, there is a 240sx w/2jz and complete stock aristo trans. car has went mid 9s on a radial , does not leave hard, and is pretty quick. its on a 67mm turbo, aftermarket converter, misc other stuff i cant remember  here is a link

http://honda-tech.co...d.php?t=3004241

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 09:42 AM

Lance you read my mind. I will be watching this thread cause I want the auto myself.
All I plan to do is try and use my stock auto shifter if possible.
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Posted 21 January 2012 - 10:43 AM

Ironside,

I have done a ton of research as of late.  Give me a shout and I can fill you in.  The short of it is, if you keep the turbos stock in the beginning the only upgrade you will want is the line pressure upgrade which runs about $500 bucks.  It makes the auto shift like right now (15/100's of a second).  The shifting is all done by electronics, no actual gate, so you should be able to modify your stock shifter to send out the proper signals.  It's just a matter of sending a 12v positive signal to the selonoid on the tranny which selects the proper gear.  Not a big deal.  I am planning on going with now shifter at all.  The center console area will be completely replaced.  All of my shifting will be done from paddles on the wheel, no shifter at all which will be cool.  Can you say big cup holders,lol?  With the bigger supra injectors (stock are 440, the supras are 550) and a turbo psi bump up to 12, you can make 330 HP or so.  If you pull the twins and go big single for big power you have to put the racing clutches in the tranny.  The stock auto will hold around 400 hp with the line pressure mod.  For more than that you need the bigger clutch pack.

My plan is to run it with the 54 over the summer and try and do the swap next winter. The cool thing about the paddles is that with a push of a button you can run it like a regular auto or shift it manually.  Get rid of the shifter and have a huge center console.
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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:37 AM

Now you got me thinking....
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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:15 PM

Here is the link for the upgraded valve body that will make the shifts super quick.

http://www.importper...-here-1791.html

Here is the link for the supra stick which is the computer that will allow you to completely control the shifting points and set it up for manual shifting through the paddles.

http://www.latentsol...prastickuv.html

And here is the actual paddle system.  This, of course, is just one, there are others on the market.

http://www.tunersgro..._Universal.html

this setup isn't the cheapest option.  I am also looking into buying a used steering wheel that has paddles already built into them which would eliminate the works, bell paddle shifter and would be less money.  Like this.

http://www.ebay.com/...=item46002dff05

or this

http://www.ebay.com/...=item20c0a152bd

or this

http://www.ebay.com/...=item20b6ff1724

So basically you need the computer which runs $350.00 and the valve body upgrade which is $530.00  for the steering wheel you can get one that is used on ebay for $100.00 or go the works route which is more at $530.00 and you would need a wheel if you don't have an aftermarket one.

Most likely, for the money, I would go with the computer and the valve body and then pick up a used steering wheel on ebay and be done.  It's still a grand, which I don't have right now, but it's fun to think about.  What you end up with is this.



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Hardpipes, MAFT, GM MAS, 3" DP, 2.5" exhaust, 950/1050 Trilogy injectors, K&N filter, Machined and balance flywheel 23 lbs, short shift, 88/89 tranny, HD ACT clutch, DSM EVO3 S16g ported (21 psi), polished and clipped, NJV head (ported), larger SS Valves, Schneider springs, Ajusa HG, Adjustable FPR, MBC, BOV, MSD coil, Walbro 255, ABS, EGR and balance shaft elim, 88/89 ECU, UEGO 02, new or rebuilt everything.

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 12:25 AM

Hey did you guys ended up doing this?! I really want to run the auto transmission with my stock automatic shifter! Need as much information as possible! Shoot me a message! I'm also following this thread.




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