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[cheesey]

Starting a new thread for my 4g63 swap. Always wanted a 4g63 starquest ever since I started going
to the DSM shootout in Norwalk. Finally acquired enough parts, tools and space to do it.

Six bolt narrow block.


W58 transmission from second gen supra with Bill's adapter.


Engine and trans mated together.


Slipping it in.


Bolted to the cross member.




The w58 must be a bit shorter than our trans coupled with not wanting to cut the firewall means the shifter housing will need to be modified to hit the original opening.

[cheesey]

modified the stock intake manifold for rwd.




Working on getting turbo pointed the right way.

[tsi_tom]

Is there a trans that will line up?

[cheesey]

tsi_tom, on 22 November 2018 - 10:10 PM, said:

Is there a trans that will line up?

I'm not too sure I tried doing homework to figure that out but you'd have to know where the engine sits, bell housing length and dimensions of the transmission.

[tsi_tom]

I thought Bill made sure the trans shifter would line up.

[jinx]

Bill can't 'know' which of the few options anyone will chose, to deal with water plumbing and cam sensor at the back of the head
some motors sit in stock location, others position it foward ~3 inches or so

[cheesey]

tsi_tom, on 23 November 2018 - 12:38 AM, said:

I thought Bill made sure the trans shifter would line up.

I knew the shifter wouldn't line up with the w58 option. I've seen bill do some custom shifter relocations. I didn't ask him to do it. I did want him to do the mounts because he has a jig and makes sure everything is aligned.

[croquest87]

Norwalk Summit Raceway   good times  Nice build sir!

[TexasQuest]

What motor mounts are you using?

[importwarrior]

I believe he is using bill hincher’s Motor mounts.
Nice build!!!

[cheesey]

Worked on getting the intercooler in while I had the day off.

[techboy]

Nice build.  Looking forward to following this as I've considered down a 4G63 swap myself.

Is that coolant pipe just laying there in the pic above, or did you figure out a way to route it over the top of the manifold?

[cheesey]

techboy, on 26 November 2018 - 09:55 PM, said:

Nice build.  Looking forward to following this as I've considered down a 4G63 swap myself.

Is that coolant pipe just laying there in the pic above, or did you figure out a way to route it over the top of the manifold?

Yeah I was just playing around with it. The 4g37 thermostat housing is the one to use if you want to go that route. But something about running all the  coolant pipes around a hot exhaust manifold makes me uneasy.I think what I'm going to do is either make a pipe or use an fittings.

Edited by cheesey, 27 November 2018 - 05:28 AM.

[TexasQuest]

This build thread will be very valuable for anyone wanting to do this swap in the future. Keep up the great work man, looking forward to following this as well!

[cheesey]

So I started working on the turbo side of the engine.



The turbo is a emusa 16g it came with the engine. I had clocked the compressor side in a way that I thought would work but it would have brought the intercooler pipes way high in the engine bay and I didn't like the look. The down pipe side also doesn't work it seems to hit the frame rail with the flange that connects to the b pipe of the exhaust. Considering those two thing I decided to convert it to external waste gate.

The flapper that needs to get removed.


Cut the actuator arm.


Cut out


Removed


Weld the hole the arm went into


Now I can put it where I want.

[speedyquest]

Awesome choice on the external wastegate, you'll have much better control over boost. The car is looking good man. Keep up the good work! I'll be driving out to see you soon.

[jinx]

vast majority of DSM turbos control boost fine, internally gated + MBC.... right up to & past 20G. Porting & correct actuator
External only adds complexity/plumbing/weight/expense

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Is that coolant pipe just laying there in the pic above, or did you figure out a way to route it over the top of the manifold?

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coolant pipes around a hot exhaust manifold makes me uneasy.I think.... either make a pipe or use an fittings

Many 4g63 rwd swaps run the pipe like that. Second truck sees track duty

[jinx]

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This build thread will be very valuable for anyone wanting to do this swap in the future

So many completed swaps already detailed the many 4G-rwd solutions
Devils' for example:  http://www.starquest...howtopic=148920
show a wideblock path, SQ gearbox, oe mitsu mounts/motor position & how to eliminate CAS and thermostat hsg from the back of the head
A whole lotta options on: austarion/twincam projectzero hotrodcoffeeshop mightyram50

[cheesey]

Worked on some ic pipe this weekend. I put oil cooler behind bracket due to larger intercooler. Also playing around with building a box for my intake. It still needs more work.

[cheesey]

Been slacking on updating this thread. Not too much big progress but some.

Made my own spark plug cover








AEM Smart Coils are a little big



Did a swirl pattern or engine turning