jinx, on 05 October 2018 - 02:50 AM, said:
Name them! Seriously, who needs that ?
Nothing to do with "purists".... more about making sensible choices
K20 'purist' recommend an $8000 swap, with a weak cheety tq curve, to move a street starquest. Ya... take that advice then.
sure it checks all the boxes that getcha all wet = peak hp + head flow + hi rev + new tech. End result still a pos
Not all swaps are 'expensive'. Nonsense
How many is a handful of 54s... and define fast ?
...and what u call "real power"?
If G54 were so unreliable.... who in their right mind would pump $1 into a MPI conversion ? Think... then look around
MPI conversions far outnumber swaps... while TBI trumps em all, @ What....10:1 at least? Yep, in 2018 still
Impossible for an "unreliable motor, prone to overheat". 54s would've all but dried up, years ago
your reality is just that... yours. The sheer numbers contradict your honesty
Maybe u roll harder than most... also, if the intent is to fly around some track as a wanabe racer, the 54 ain't the medicine imo
A buick GN 5psi brake stand launch, ET streets on asphalt, can lift a front tire, leaves pinning you ridiculously hard in the seat
You'd have to be insane to hold that pedal down on the street
That V6 checks none of the boxes; peak hp + crappy head flow + low rev(~5600 redline, worse than a 54) + 60s tech. So what ?
Smarter folks have gotten any of these old donks, to rip it up & stay together
Well, somebody's triggered! Do what you want with your car, I've tuned G54BT's since 1995 and I know what they can do, I know what it costs, and I know what parts fail. I've built six of the damn things and raced them all.
A handful of fast G54B's is exactly that, a handful. A few. What's real power? I dunno, more than 300HP? When you're done what have you got, how driveable is it on/off throttle, in and out of turns when it's not wide open? My approach is to think about how I want the car to feel and drive, and build towards that. I don't care about the orthodoxy, I take my inspiration from DIYers, drifters and hot-rodders who do things people say they shouldn't do and end up with unique cars built for them. I got used to driving an LS1 Vette and started asking myself why I was still putting up with the G54b's BS when there are engines that can outshine it without even breaking a sweat.
If G54B's were reliable, people wouldn't NEED to go MPI. They are trying to solve some of the problems with the motor, but either don't want to swap it out, want more power than TBI can provide, or think MPI will be the reliability solution. Bottom line, HP costs more with a G54B than it does with other motors and since you asked, G54B's DID dry up years ago, the only place you can find 'em is on SQC, they sure as hell aren't in the junkyards anymore, maybe Craigslist here and there.
I used to sound just like you. In 2000 for the Englishtown meet I made Tshirts that said "revenge of the 2.6" because Buschur made swapping 4G63's popular. That was a few engines ago, a lot of money ago, a lot of downtime ago.
Not sure why you're talking about Grand Nationals either, I'm not criticizing a decade I'm criticizing Mitsubishi's 70's engine tech not every old engine. Either way, a stock GNX ain't lifting a tire on launch with 250HP and 350 torque!
Edited by Fuze, 05 October 2018 - 08:53 AM.