GREENSTAR Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Ok guys, I don't want to post this like it was a simple job. -It took a lot of work to figure it all out but now I know what to do it should be easy for all of you 86 guys to get this to work. -Keep in mind the only way this would really benifit the 86 guys is if you have some mods and you are running a Fuel Cut Defencer. -I will list my mods just so you can get an idea: Clevit bearings, race prepped rods, JE's 8:1, balanced rotating assembly, total seal rings(stock head)Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch(Verdict still out on this one)He HeBSE KitRoller RockersHKS Fuel Cut defencer3 inch exhaust/no cats/dyno max mufflerFull hardpipe kit with moded IC/Turbo XS RFL BOVUpgraded fuel pumpHallman MBC18G/TD06 Forced Performance TurboMSD Blaster II coilNGK plugs and wires I think I got everything! -Here is the wiring for it: 86 AFS - - - - - - - - - - - - DSM AFSgrn/red - - - - - - - - - - - - grn/orngred - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - grn/redblk - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - grn/blkwht/blk - - - - - - - - - - - - grn/bluN/C - - - - - - - - - - - - - - grn yelNew +12 Volt switched- -Large RedN/C - - - - - - - - - - - - - - grn/wht N/C means you will not hook these up**** -I would not even try hooking this up without an A/F guage. -You need to be able to monitor your readings while you are doing the process. Now the way I actually got it to idle and accelerate properly is by giving it more or less air. -You might have to play with this a little by covering the metered side or the unmetered side. -Sounds ghetto but this is how it worked for me. -I actually ended up covering maybe a 1/4 to a 1/3 of the unmetered side to get my proper A/F reading. -My gauge bounces back and forth durning idle and under WOT I am seeing about 2 bars into the rich. - I covered the unmetered side with heavy duty duct tape. -Like I said, it sounds ghetto but man, what a difference in performanc. -Like I said, you might have to play with the metered or unmetered side to get it perfect but it works and I swear by it. -Any questions shoot me a pm or and email. -Happy Boosting! -Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmtattat Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 i will be taking this information and using it soon enough as I attempt to put this on my 86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksweet Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Steve you might want to try 1 freen secondary ijector and remove the tape. You may get a good a/f mixture and extra HP. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENSTAR Posted February 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Well I am still trying to get the green injector to work. I am going to have to tweak with the MAS a little more. I popped the green secondary in and it was fine at idle but seemed to overload under WOT. So I am going to try and open up the metered side. I will keep you posted! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edjee Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Would it be more difficult to swap to an 88 ecu, or would that be a mess of problems. Do you think runnin one on a stock 86 be easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metric-man Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 FYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G54Bstore Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 when the 86 mas is unplugged.the car runs better. so when u hogg the un metered side of the mas and add a green sec.injector.imagine how good it runs. ive had a 1g and a 89 mas hooked to my 86. i like the modded stock mas. under 14psi of boost the a/f guage is buried in the rich. i gotta get bigger turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENSTAR Posted March 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Well I can run w/out the MAS, however, there is a stumble on initial take off and let's say you were just cruising on the freeway and want to just mash it and take off, with the MAS not hooked up you can't do that. The car falls on it's face. Now if you ease into the throttle it is fine. I just did not like those couple of flaws with it. As far as running a hacked stock MAS, I have heard good things and bad things about them. I have been told from numerous members that it has worked for them and some say that it totally killed the MAS after being hacked. I know G54Bstore has been succesfull with hacking the stock mas and running the secondary 88/89 injector. But then again you don't want to run toooooo rich. You will end up rebuilding your block in no time. Hey G54B store, have you checked your oil lately to see if it is strong with gas fumes? How rich are you running under WOT with the secondary? I still want to try and run the secondary also. I am working on an oil leak right now but after that it will be back to testing and tunning. Trying to get ready by the 26th. That is the next races! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G54Bstore Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 i always get that question. no i have been running a sec injector for a year or so. oil is fine.im running perfectly fine under every driving condition, its just under full throttle the a/f guage climbs to the more rich. and my buddy say when im at full throttle and hes behind me getting smoked in a honda,he smells gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENSTAR Posted April 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Just wanted to bring this to the top. A couple of people have asked me about it. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edjee Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I just got the female side from a 1gen, so imma attempt this pretty soon, Now the Large red from the dsm where do hook that one up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenzy757 Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 i heard that 1gmas dont do anything for 86s? is that true Green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Steve  have you  done a write up on  doing the  1g mass on  the 86 if you have  would  you mind if i post'd it on  starquest i-x net,,  under you name  for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest surferdude Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Shelby or Steve, Has this mod write-up been posted over at starquest.i-x.net? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 i haven't done  it no i lie'd just did it thanks GreenStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boycelaforest707 Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 OK I have a 1g MAS, AHP and K&N (and a 86 quest). I do not have a pigtail for the new 1g mas... going to install it. Any pinout info (going to make my own connector).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 read the first post in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boycelaforest707 Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Yeah thanks, that shows wire colors, I need PINOUTS, because I do not have a pigtail, so I need to know which pins are which color on the 1g MAS side, I do not want to dissasemble it. So there! ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest surferdude Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 No need to hack the connector - you only need 4 of the 1g wires and run a switchable 12v source wire to the + side of the coil or tap into the 02 sensor. Another option is to run a standard 30 amp 4 way relay and tap into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENSTAR Posted August 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 Sorry guys, I have been in and out of the scene since I sold my greenstar but I still hopp on as much as I can. I am glad to see people are still interested in the 1G on the 86. I can tell you that it surely made a big difference on my old 86. I was running 20 + PSI and it ran beautiful for me. I still am around guys if you need any help with this. Shoot me an email. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edjee Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Alright, I'm finally going to be able to do this CORRECTLY ;D I just wanted to ask to make sure on a few things. With the HKS FCD, do I totally cut the A9 wire from the ecu and connect to FCD or do I tap into it? Now I'm going to be running a 12A modified with a 16g wheel at the VERY most 15psi but rarely, actually I prolly won't even run that for a while( gotta get a clutch ;D) Greenstar, you covered about a 1/3 to 1/4 of the unmetered side with a 18g and stock injectors? So should I try to cover around half of it with my turbo? I have stock injectors also. I'm also assuming that I need some type of boost controller to tame the beast or it's gonna boost to the junkyard Thanks in advance for any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smog Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Thats a sob to get working. Hope you have a wideband, I didn't have great success with it, but i managed to make it run about as good as my stock mas. You really need to play around with it to get it right for your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smog Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 bump - this needs to be in the faq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G54Bstore Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 i tried this and there was fuel cut....still! i also ran a 88 mas for a while but fuel cut was always there. has any1 done this and eliminated fuelcut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest surferdude Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I'm still running my stock 86 MAS. I'm not, at this point, going to hack up my car to install a 1g MAS that might not work well. Seems more of us are not having good results with this swap vs. just staying with the quirky 86 setup. Gotta love having two 850 cc injectors stock, though!!! ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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