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R 154 Toyota Supra Turbo trans mounted to a wide block


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I have the pattern in casting now, I know its hard to see any improvement in this pattern but the holes are filled in and it is correct

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I didnt primer the pattern this time, I wanted keep the features a little sharper

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I will have 5 of them in hand the begining of next week and then tet them out to see if they are good

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I have 5 raw castings built and I am testing fit/finish and machinabilty now

 

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because of how the pattern shrinks, I keep testing for fit, I only have 2mm all around the flywheel to work with, plus I need to have enough depth for the clutch, so I keep cutting,testing, assembling and re testing, everything is located correctly at this point, I will be cutting the trans facing next

 

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i like to check my centers as I move along in the machining process

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the transmission facing matched the bellhousing perfectly

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a lot of effort was made to clear all the internals with only minor machine time

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the bellhousing bolt holes line up to the block perfectly, the input shaft is properly centered and indexed, everything has worked out as planned

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the starter is the OEM Mits starter put right back in its original place

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I had to make sure of the clutch control placement so I started by putting in the side wall slot and drilling the pivot ball in place, remember, I re used all the parts from the original Starquest

 

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I built this jig to give me my centers and hiegth adjustments for each application

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I have to square the landing for the slave cylinder

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and I re-used the Starion slave cylinder right back where it should be

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I had a suggestion from a buyer for a window to check out the internals, so I am building this inspecton opening in all my bellhousings

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I wanted to build a complete swap to the Starion so I installed the R 154 and checked my fit, this is using the stock motor mounts and the G54b engine wide block

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there is an inner/outer sheetmetal arringement in the tunnel, I just removed a bit of the outter skin

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The original rear crossmember still fits but I will be making something else here to include a drive shaft safety loop

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Its a tight fit , but doable .;o)

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the shifter location is perefect, dead center

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the transmission is completely up in the chassis, I will be doing the driveshaft next and that will dictate the rear crossmember mount hieght

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Bill,

 

I don't want to clutter your thread. I didn't mean to offend you on the driveshaft question...LOL...I'm curious if you think the Tranny mount you are going to make would work for a 2jz swap in a conquest using the r154. I'm sure it would be a little further back so the only different would be the mounting position but I would like to get one from you when you are done with this project. Thanks Bill

 

Braden

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Bill,

 

I don't want to clutter your thread. I didn't mean to offend you on the driveshaft question...LOL...I'm curious if you think the Tranny mount you are going to make would work for a 2jz swap in a conquest using the r154. I'm sure it would be a little further back so the only different would be the mounting position but I would like to get one from you when you are done with this project. Thanks Bill

 

Braden

 

You aint buggin me Bradon, I was just bein funny. did you get a manual flywheel worked out for the 2jz swap?

 

I kinda know what I am going to do and I ordered a couple parts today for the rear mount, but I dont know exactly what rear mount I will use, I cant stand having stuff hang under a car, the trans sets in there ok but If I used the Toyota rear mount, I think it would be too low. all track rule books are going to ask you to have a driveshaft safety loop, so I migth as well get that out of the way and build it right into my rear mount set up

I think that is my next course of action is to build the driveshaft because that will tell me where my driveshaft angle should be, then I can work in the rear mount hiegth

 

 

thanks for askin

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It seems like a lot guys are just as concerned with how to build the driveshaft as they are with the bellhousing

I found a yoke that accepts the 1310 u-joint which is a common, servicable u-joint

 

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1310 is a dana spicer number for a u joint commonly found on light duty domestic cars

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then I just cut the neck off the Starion driveshaft

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then I just matched itto a common source weld flange and cut it down to fit into the existing Starion drive shaft tube

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i know there are many ways to build the shaft , but this is a quick easy way for a guy on a budget to get himself rolling

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now i can get the proper angle for the rear trans mount, nothin eats horsepower like a misaligned driveshaft

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there is no need to stuff the yoke up in the trans, the splined section of the trans output shaft is off set about an inch away from the tailshaft

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yes, they are a good casting, I am happy with how they turned out.

 

I machine them out after they are ordered ( so i can focus on one bellhousing at a time)

Right now that will take me 3 working days

 

I have shipped to Australia many times, it usually costs $130.00 USD ( cheaper than England bye the way :wacko: )

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I needed to finish out the rear trans mount before i tore down the build for another project, I wanted to include a driveshaft loop to build strength in the system while improving the safety of the build

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I placed a couple small slices in the floor board and tucked my safety loop inside of the front seat supports

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from the inside you can not tell the safety loops were added, they are sandwiched under the seat support

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then I had to fab a couple of floor suports for the side of the trans tunnel to relocate the rear trans mount

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the rear Toyota Supra trans mount was used and had to be attached to the original Mits rear crossmember

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Then the rear crossmember was located to the side tunnel supports

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the shifter just cant line up any better

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Here's the progress... a complete write up on 26liter.us under 'quest for power' section if anyones interested:

 

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I am going to add about 5/16th" of spacers to drop the trans mount down a bit and relieve the stress on it. Other than that, everything is bolting up perfectly. Bill did an amazing job with this bell housing. It's about as 'plug and play' as it can get.

 

I just need to go get the drive shaft made and I am done. Bill - fantastic work!!!

 

Tom

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Great pics. I am also hoping to get this kit from Bill soon. Looks like a very snug fit, the transmission does not hang down too low like I was worried about. Also from your pics, I can not tell how you bolted the tranny cross member to the frame. Did you use the existing locations or did you have to use angle iron to relocate them like in Bill's pic?
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Great pics. I am also hoping to get this kit from Bill soon. Looks like a very snug fit, the transmission does not hang down too low like I was worried about. Also from your pics, I can not tell how you bolted the tranny cross member to the frame. Did you use the existing locations or did you have to use angle iron to relocate them like in Bill's pic?

 

Relocated the cross member about 3 or 4" further back with some brackets fabricated with angle iron.

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Fired up the car with the new r154 in it for the first time. Everything seemed fine - was able to cycle through the gears without any issues, no grinding, etc. So far so good. Just need that driveshaft and she's ready for the maiden cruise... Driveshaft should be ready Monday or Tuesday at the latest.

 

Put the interior back together - well at least any pieces that didn't decide to break and shatter. Stupid 23 year old plastic...

 

This is with a Mookeh short throw shifter, so I'd say all in all it's maybe an inch closer to the dash at most. The stocker supra shifter is longer and I bet would be exactly in the stock location. The throw on the mookeh is ridiculously short, I love it.

 

I just need to come up with a decent leather boot and a shift nob - this is supra one that came with a stock shifter, and it won't screw on, wrong threads, and its beat to crap anyways. I reversed the rubber on that inner boot since the base of the shifter is further forward than a stock shifter. Not perfect, but it'll do the trick.

 

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Reverse:

 

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